China will have at least 200m obese people within 10 years if current trends continue, the state media say.
They quoted a top medical expert as saying high-fat diets and less active lifestyles in a country with rising incomes were exacerbating the problem.
The expert said trends among children were the most worrying with 10% of them considered obese.
China has already 90m people out of 1.3bn whose weight is more than 20% in excess of the accepted level.
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He said that rapidly improving living standards had led to a fast-food culture in many cities and more Chinese were adopting more sedentary lifestyles that centred around television, computers and cars.
Mr Chen's report said the problem was particularly bad among youths, with the number of the obese children increasing by 8% every year.
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For one I think that it is the Chinese diet being much more fatty. With an increase in income and the expanding economy, maybe the Chinese are doing less manual labor and have more money to spend on food vs 10-20 yrs ago. Therefore, with less work and more money to spend on food, their high fat diet is finally beginning to show. Just a guess.Maciamo said:The perenial question is, why are Americans in average so much fatter than Europeans, and why would the Chinese become so much fatter than the Japanese ? Food diversity ? Lifestyle ? I refuse to think it is sport/exercise, as American people are usually much more sport-obssessed than Europeans and Japanese people. Could it just be a psychological difference ? But what do the younger Chinese share in common with the Americans than they do not share with the Japanese ? Quiz time !
You are correct in your assessment about discipline. But most of the people I know hate exercising and will do anything to not do it thus they don't. Of course I know a couple who do it religiously, but for the most part they hate it. But you are correct in that they don't have much time for it with all their work and such. I'm with you in the suits against the fast food industry. It's their fault and they should have more discipline. In my case I had to cut down my eating to twice a day. With my age and slower metabolism, I just had to do do it as my weight went up to almost 180 lbs. I just cut out one meal, all soft drinks and candy and sugary substances, eat healthier and take suppliments. Now my weight is down to a respectable 160 lbs.Ma_Cherie said:The obesity problem in America has do with us needing discipline. But, I mean really? I wouldn't say that Americans hate exercising, I would argue the point that we don't have much time for it. However, Americans really need to stop giving into those advertisments for increase in quantities of food. That's why I get angry when I see people trying to sue the fastfood industry for the reasons why they're overwieght. For of all, it's NOT the fastfood industry's fault you're obese, it's your fault for not choosing to eat properly. Besides, there's no excuse as to why Americans can't healthier.
I believe there is a connection. With both parents working to pay the mortgage, cable, cell phone, cars, HDTV bills and such they don't have time to cook a healthy meal for the kids. So they just slap something together or order fast food with no nutrition whatsoever. When I was a kid, mom didn't need to work to pay the bills and we always had a home-cooked health meal with vegetables and such. Today, that is quite rare.Glenn said:I wonder if there's any connection between a decrease in home-cooked meals and an increase in obesity. Adding to the too busy idea, perhaps people just don't have time to cook anymore. I have no idea whether there's any connection -- I'm just throwing out ideas.
I think there might be a connection; as far as I recall there are numerous breakfast cafeterias where they serve quick meals quite early in the morning. I used to get soft tofu and soy sauce or hundun (wonton) soup. I don't know if they are still popular, but if so, that's another common aspect between the US and China.Glenn said:I wonder if there's any connection between a decrease in home-cooked meals and an increase in obesity. Adding to the too busy idea, perhaps people just don't have time to cook anymore. I have no idea whether there's any connection -- I'm just throwing out ideas.
In my opinion, that is the biggest problem. Processed food! :bikkuri:Ma_Cherie said:These days, food is being processed instead being natural.
I would say the diet here is closer to Japanese than it is to Chinese; rice and kimchi is THE staple diet. Obesity has been on the rise; it has become a serious problem for some people ast least. I think it's related to the change in diet that some poeple believe is acceptable now. Many mothers are either too busy to cook for their children, or don't have the inclination to cook. Some mothers are into thinking what they find decent food is okay for their kids. Very unscientific thinking wouuld explain a lot of what's going on; poor kids who have to suffer for their mothers not knowing much in terms of food and health.Pachipro said:BTW Lexico, what is the situation in Korea with obese people? Do they eat similar to Japanese or Chinese? Is the younger generation obese? I only visited Korea once and I thought they ate similar to Japanese with the exception of kimchi. However, in my in-laws house kimchi is a staple food eaten everyday for it's health benefits. I wonder how many JApanese households eat kimchi on a regular basis?
It seems that this has become the norm in almost all industrialized countries although I don't know about Europe. They think that just because it's advertised on TV that it is ok to eat and feed ones children. But when you do a little further reasearch you find that there is absolutely little or no nutritional value whatsoever in some of the meals people are eating these days. Quite sad. The least they could do is fortify their meals with suppliments to keep their immune system functioning properly.lexico said:Many mothers are either too busy to cook for their children, or don't have the time to cook. Some mothers are into thinking what they find decent food is okay for their kids. Very unscientific thinking wouuld explain a lot of what's going on; poor kids who have to suffer for their mothers not knowing much in terms of food and health.
lexico said:One thing that comes to mind is China's low reliance on rice. I think the heavy reliance on rice in Japan and Korea is widely different from the variety of staples in the diets of US and China where there isn't such a strong preference for rice. I really don't know how else this might be related to obesity per se though. It might be that their diet is somewhat healthier because it's more diversified ?
Louisiana rice consumption is considerably higher than the rest of the nation, and even rivals that of some Asian countries. So strong is the local rice culture that in the 1970s, Japanese appliance companies successfully marketed automatic rice cookers to the home cooks of Southern Louisiana.
The states with the highest rice consumption are Hawaii and Louisiana.
The problem of over-eating and/or not exercising is a national one. Nearly two-thirds of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese. Although the prevalence of obesity in Louisiana declined slightly [0.7 percent] between 2003 and 2004, the rate of obesity in our state has more than doubled since 1990. Nearly one adult in four living in Louisiana is obese.
Most probably there is a connection. AFAIK, the obesity problem in China is most prevalent among youngsters which habitually eat at McDonald's or similar restaurants. The traditional Chinese diet is not to blame, I think. It's by far not as healthy as many Chinese seem to think, but it doesn't really lead to obesity.Glenn said:I wonder if there's any connection between a decrease in home-cooked meals and an increase in obesity. Adding to the too busy idea, perhaps people just don't have time to cook anymore. I have no idea whether there's any connection -- I'm just throwing out ideas.
To me as a German Chinese food culture seems to focus very much on rice (although there is an incredible number of Chinese dishes without rice), it's definitely the Chinese staple food no.1.lexico said:One thing that comes to mind is China's low reliance on rice.
lexico said:As for kimchi in the average Japanese household, I don't have any stats, but I've noticed some Japanese visiting Korea on business make it a point to shop for kimchi for their wives back home. So I'd say it's become quite popular in Japan.
bossel said:To me as a German Chinese food culture seems to focus very much on rice (although there is an incredible number of Chinese dishes without rice), it's definitely the Chinese staple food no.1.
Is rice so much more prevalent in Korea & Japan that it makes China's reliance on rice look comparatively low?
That's true, actually. Most of my Chinese friends are from the South, therefore I may have a certain prejudice. I stand corrected (although, from a German perspective, even the North Chinese still seem to eat a large amount of rice).Maciamo said:There is a big gap between North and South China regarding rice consumption.
In China, cigarettes are a kind of wonder drug
by GEOFFREY YORK
Saturday, June 11, 2005 Updated at 3:27 AM EDT
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Guiyang, China ・Here's some exciting medical news from the Chinese government: Smoking is great for your health.
Cigarettes, according to China's tobacco authorities, are an excellent way to prevent ulcers.
They also reduce the risk of Parkinson's disease, relieve schizophrenia, boost your brain cells, speed up your thinking, improve your reactions and increase your working efficiency.
And all those warnings about lung cancer? Nonsense.
You're more likely to get cancer from cooking smoke than from your cigarette habit.
Welcome to the bizarre parallel universe of China's state-owned tobacco monopoly, the world's most successful cigarette-marketing agency.
With annual sales of 1.8 trillion cigarettes, the Chinese monopoly is responsible for almost one-third of all cigarettes smoked on the planet today.
If you believe the official website of the tobacco monopoly, cigarettes are a kind of miracle drug: solving your health problems, helping your lifestyle, strengthening the equality of women, and even eliminating loneliness and depression.
鉄moking removes your troubles and worries,・says a 37-year-old female magazine editor, quoted approvingly on the website. Holding a cigarette is like having a walking stick in your hand, giving you support.
轍uitting smoking would bring you misery, shortening your life.・
Such statements are widely believed in China.
Two-thirds of Chinese men are smokers, and surveys show that as many as 90 per cent believe their habit has little effect on their health, or is good for them.
Even in China's medical community, 60 per cent of male doctors are smokers. Few are aware of the studies forecasting that cigarettes will soon be responsible for one-third of all premature deaths among Chinese men.
Little wonder that Western tobacco companies are hungrily circling the Chinese market, lobbying eagerly for entry into this lucrative market of 360 million smokers, the biggest market in the world.
So far, 99 per cent of the market is controlled by the Chinese monopoly, but Western tobacco companies are convinced they will soon crack it, especially now that China is a member of the World Trade Organization and is obliged to reduce its tariffs on foreign cigarettes.
For the anti-smoking movement, China is the ultimate challenge. Nonetheless, this week, a group of Canadian experts arrived in southwestern China in a bid to convince Chinese smokers that cigarettes might not be quite as beneficial as they believe.
They distributed anti-smoking posters, visited cancer patients, showed the graphic warnings on Canadian cigarette packs, and lectured on how the anti-smoking campaign has reduced Canada's lung-cancer rate. But they admitted that they face an uphill struggle in a country where the tobacco industry provides 60 million jobs and 10 per cent of national tax revenue.
The magnitude of the problem is overwhelming,・said Jean Couture, a Quebec surgeon who has been travelling to China since 1990 to work on cancer-education programs.
In China today, the economy comes first and everything else is secondary, including health care,・Dr. Couture said. You wonder if anyone in the government is conscious of how great the smoking problem is. There's no public education program. The Chinese anti-smoking association is very weak and has almost no money. Within 20 years, China could have the majority of all smoking deaths in the world.・
Chinese doctors have called Dr. Couture a 都econd Norman Bethune・・a reference to the Canadian surgeon who became a Chinese hero after dying while giving care to Chinese Communist soldiers in 1939. The Quebec doctor, who has helped create an 80-bed cancer unit at a hospital in northeastern China, is now leading an anti-smoking campaign in four Chinese provinces.
When the Canadians arrived this week in Guizhou province in southwestern China, they were worried about the power of the local tobacco industry. The province is filled with tobacco farms and cigarette factories. As they distributed posters at a hospital in one of Guizhou's biggest cities yesterday, the Canadians saw a number of people smoking in the hospital. A hospital shop was openly selling cigarettes.
典he tobacco industry is so huge and the anti-tobacco movement is so weak,・said Mark Rowswell, a Canadian television personality and Chinese celebrity (under the name Da Shan), who helps promote the anti-smoking campaign. What we're doing is just a drop in the ocean.・
While smoking rates have fallen sharply in Canada in the past two decades, the rate in China is still rising.
典en years ago, when we first came to China, it was unheard of for young women to smoke,・said Nicole Magnan, executive director of the Quebec division of the Canadian Cancer Society, who was in the Canadian delegation this week. Now there are more and more of them.・
While China has proclaimed that the 2008 Beijing Olympics will be a smoke-free Olympics, it has done little to discourage smoking. The number of Chinese smokers is growing by three million a year, despite an estimated 1.3 million tobacco-related deaths annually.
Chinese cigarettes are cheap ・as little as 30 cents a pack ・and the health warnings are hidden in small print on the sides of the packages. Though cigarette advertising is technically illegal, tobacco companies are allowed to promote their corporate names. When sprinter Liu Xiang won a gold medal for China at the Athens Olympics last summer, he promptly went out and filmed a television commercial for China's biggest cigarette company.
Children can easily buy cigarettes at Chinese shops, despite an official ban on sales to those under the age of 18. Shop owners never refuse to sell us cigarettes,・said one 16-year-old boy who was smoking as he played pool near a Guizhou school this week.
They only care about money.・
Che Chuangao, a construction worker, started smoking when he was 20. 溺ore than 90 per cent of my friends smoked, so I couldn't be different,・he said. 鄭nd it's helpful for my work. Offering a cigarette is a social greeting, whenever you meet a friend or a stranger. I know that smoking isn't good. Once I stopped smoking for a month or two. But my friends persuaded me to smoke again.・
While their task is daunting, the Canadians are scoring some small successes. After listening to a speech by the Canadians this week, 27-year-old medical student Li Dongbo said he was inspired to work on anti-smoking projects.
Interesting article. This should've been it's own thread though as there will probably be many comments on it. Anyway, referring to the quotes above, with the severe over population in China, and their having one-sixth of the world's population, maybe this is their way of reducing the population. Just a thought.Within 20 years, China could have the majority of all smoking deaths in the world.E......The number of Chinese smokers is growing by three million a year, despite an estimated 1.3 million tobacco-related deaths annually.
I like the humor which I can resonate. As for your last comment, I'd like to give my favorite quote from myself.Pachipro said:Interesting article. This should've been it's own thread though as there will probably be many comments on it. Anyway, referring to the quotes above, with the severe over population in China, and their having one-sixth of the world's population, maybe this is their way of reducing the population. Just a thought.
I always knew that it helped sustain my emotional harmony; but now I know it helps to prevent a plethora of obscure physical illnesses as well. Perhaps scientists should study new ways to deliver health benefits via the fuming medium ? One scary possibility would be the control over smokers by the smoke manufacturers ? Am I sedated ??? :?That deadly thing ought to be reduced. The enlightened ones must take the lead.
yeah I saw it posted on a Chinese board yesterday !! In my opinion it's the biggest load of crap just to keep people smoking.cicatriz esp said:This will also not help China if it hopes to be a first world superpower:
Gotta love the honesty of the Chinese government. I'd post the link to this article, but it doesn't work anymore.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20050611.CHINA11/BNStory/Idx/cicatriz esp said:Gotta love the honesty of the Chinese government. I'd post the link to this article, but it doesn't work anymore.
This is a familiar phenomenon, when someone got a incurable disease, his or her family might choose not telling the truth, they thought that would keep the patient in good mood thus the patient could live a little longer, usually the patient would figure out finally.bossel said:"The student's uncle, who had smoked for 30 years, died of lung cancer in February. To spare his feelings, his family had never told him the truth about his illness.
In America, their fast food is cheap so people buy more and donft bother to cook. In France for example if you go to eat at a fast food joint or if you go eat in a traditional restaurant, fast food is not cheaper and people prefer to eat their traditional French food rather than junk.Americans are fatter than the Europeans because they eat too much! Eating has become a hobby here and there is no regard to nutritional content whatsoever.
One thing that comes to mind is China's low reliance on rice. I think the heavy reliance on rice in Japan and Korea is widely different from the variety of staples in the diets of US and China where there isn't such a strong preference for rice. I really don't know how else this might be related to obesity per se though. It might be that their diet is somewhat healthier because it's more diversified ?
Actually the Southern Chinese have strong reliance on rice, the northerners eat noodles and Chinese steamed bread. But this is not the cause I think, it is the American fast-food industries that is spreading in China.Is rice so much more prevalent in Korea & Japan that it makes
China's reliance on rice look comparatively low?
Kim Chi is just one of the items brought by the Korean wave that is very popular among not just Japanese but East Asians in general at the moment. I like Kim chi, but I like it because it taste good to me I am not following any trend or anything.I confirm that kimchi is becoming quite popular in Japan. My wife and I just love it. Whenever I pass through Incheon Airport, I see loads of Japanese buying kimchi as "omiyage". In fact, the Korean staff selling it greet customers in Japanese assuming only Japanese will buy it at the airport !
Yep, thatfs true.There is a big gap between North and South China regarding rice consumption. Most Chinese restaurants in Western countries are the Southern type, with mostly rice. I noticed that Chinese restaurants in Japan, and especially expensive ones, mainly serve fried rice as the last dish of a long course, with no rice during the rest of the course. Chinese food in Japan means more "men" (–Ë), gyoza (éLŽq), shoronpo, nikumanjuu ("÷é\"ª), etc.
Yes that is what I am thinking as well.Anyway, I don't think that either Southern or Northern Chinese suffer from obesity due to their traditional cuisine. It's probably mostly fast food with a certain lack of physical activity that does it.