This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Maybe or Perhaps, Maybe or May, Must or I'm sure that....(^^;;;;

  • Thread starter Thread starter Mac
  • Start date Start date

Mac

English Learner
Joined
3 Mar 2004
Messages
180
Reaction score
3
I got confused of these. Especially must or I'm sure that ツ〜 .
I didn't have no confidence about them though.....

I'm sure she knows about it. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
She must know about it.窶敕樞?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
ツ(窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「 is incorrect? Doesn't it have two meanings?ツ)
She must have lived there. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堋ア窶堙可住窶堙ア窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
ツ(ツ住窶堙懌?堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「 is incorrect?ツ)
She must be a dog. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙最陳「窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「

She may be a dog. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙最陳「窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
Maybe She is a dog. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙最陳「窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
She may know about it. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙≫?堙??堙?窶堙ヲ窶堋「ツ。
ツ(窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「 is incorrect? Doesn't it have two meanings?ツ)
Maybe she knows about it.窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
She may have lived there. 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堋ア窶堙可住窶堙ア窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。

I would like to know proper English.
Please someone tell me.
 

Shouldn't that be 窶敕楪鞘?? I'm a little confused by this, because I don't understand why they would use a different interpretation for one or two of the sentences than they do for the rest. If this means "I expect that she know about it," then 窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「 would be the correct interpretation. If it means "she has an obligation to know about it," then it should be 窶冦窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「.


This is the same as the above. "She must have lived there" can mean either, and I'm not sure why they changed horses midstream, so to speak. If it means "I expect that she lived there," then ツ住窶堙ア窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「 would be the correct interpretation. If it means "she was obligated to live there," then ツ住窶堙懌?堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋ス would be correct.


Once again they changed horses midstream. If "she may know about it" means "she is allowed to know about it," then it should be 窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堙?窶堙ヲ窶堋「. If it means "she may or may not know about it" (i.e. it is uncertain whether she knows about it, and the possibility of her knowing is not very high), then 窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「 would be correct.
 
Oh Thank you so much for your explanations, Glenn.

She = 窶敕樞?堙 was a typo. (^^; I'm sorry.

[Conjecture] hmm(^^;;;;
"I expect that she knows about it." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堋ェ窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙ー窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙娯?堙坂?懌?凪?漏窶堙固ス窶凪?堙?スv窶堋、ツ。
"She must know about it." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
"She must have lived there." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堋ア窶堙可住窶堙ア窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶堙架?。窶堋「窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
"She may know about it." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堋ゥ窶堙?窶堋オ窶堙ェ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。

[Obligation]
"She has obligation to know about it." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙ゥ窶ケ`窶督ア窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙ゥツ。
"She must know about it." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋「ツ。
"She must have lived there." 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堋ア窶堙可住窶堙懌?堙遺?堋ッ窶堙ェ窶堙寂?堙遺?堙ァ窶堙遺?堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋スツ。
"She may know about it" 窶敕楪鞘?披?堙坂?堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙俄?堙や?堋「窶堙??冦窶堙≫?堙??堙?窶堙ヲ窶堋「ツ。

wow! "must" has two meanings or more. I totally understood about it! (^^; hmm...

Thank you again.
 
Hello, Mac. If I may, I would like to correct your English.

Mac said:
I got confused of these.

"I am confused by these" is better English. "Get confused" is used colloquially to mean "become confused" ("get" is used to mean "become" very frequently by native English speakers), and as far as I know it would only be used for a conditional. For example, "I got confused when I tried to do two things at once." Also, the verb "confuse" doesn't take "of," so it is not the right preposition in this circumstance. "I am confused by these" means that "these" made you confused, and you are still confused.

Mac said:
Especially must or I'm sure that ツ〜 .

This confused me at first, because I didn't realize that "must" and "I'm sure that ~" were parts of a text that you were quoting. This can be made clear simply by using quotation marks ("").

Mac said:
I didn't have no confidence about them though.....

This sentence is technically wrong, but it has its uses. It sounds like a dialect, particularly one spoken by lower class people. The reason is that you used a double negative: "didn't" and "no." This sentence would be OK if you wanted to sound highly informal, but if you want to use proper English then it should correctly be either "I didn't have any confidence ~" or "I had no confidence ~."
 
Yes, you can. Please. (^^; There are a lot of things in English that I have to learn.
I would like you to tell me English. (or I want you to tell me English.)(^^;

Thank you! but I'm going to translate your sentences and learn later.
I can't understand immediately.
 

it's called a double negation ^^

that means you use two no's to take eachother out...

and like glenn says, that's incorrect and commonly only used by the ignorant lower classes

does that sound complicated? it's not really.. it's like when you do maths with negative numbers.. the two negatives will take eachother out and make it a plus...

( 10 - -10= 20 )

right, if what i said confused you further, just ignore me, Mac >_<
 
"I am confused by these" is better English. "Get confused" is used colloquially to mean "become confused" ("get" is used to mean "become" very frequently by native English speakers), and as far as I know it would only be used for a conditional. For example, "I got confused when I tried to do two things at once." Also, the verb "confuse" doesn't take "of," so it is not the right preposition in this circumstance. "I am confused by these" means that "these" made you confused, and you are still confused.

"I am confused by these"窶堋ェ窶堙ヲ窶堙ィ窶堙ヲ窶堙ィ窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙??堋キツ。"Get confused"窶堙最津サナ津ェ窶堙可(ツ?ツ)"become confused"窶堙ーヒ?凪?督。窶堋キ窶堙ゥナス窶凪?堙嫁スg窶堙ュ窶堙ェツ("get"窶堙?become"窶堙戸?凪?督。窶堙?、ナスツゥ窶漏窶堙俄?ーpナ津ェ窶堙ーヒ彙窶堋キツ人窶堋ス窶堋ソ窶堙俄?堙ヲ窶堙≫?堙?、窶堙??堙??堙?窶堙ヲ窶堋ュナスg窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キツ。ツ)ツ、ナス窶樞?堋ェ窶冦窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙ゥナ津?窶堙ィ窶堙??堙債、窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙債湘ーナ陳鞘?堙ー窶「\窶堋キツ(ツ?ツ)窶堋ス窶堙溪?堋セ窶堋ッ窶堙嫁スg窶堙ュ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶堋ス窶堙??堋ヲ窶堙篠、"I got confused when I tired to got two things at once."ツ。窶堙懌?堋スツ、窶慊ョナスナ停?堙?confused"窶堙?of"窶堙ー窶「K窶牌窶堙??堋オ窶堙遺?堋「ツ(= takeツ?ツ)窶堙娯?堙?、窶堋ア窶堙個湘ウ窶ケツオ窶堙??堙坂?堋ス窶堋セ窶堋オ窶堋「窶楼窶冰ナスナ停?堙遺?堋「ツ。"I am confused by these"窶堙?these窶堋ェ窶堋?窶堙遺?堋ス窶堙ーツ債ャ窶板絶?堋ウ窶堋ケツ、窶堋?窶堙遺?堋ス窶堋ェ窶堙懌?堋セツ債ャ窶板絶?堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堙ゥ窶堙??堋「窶堋、ヒ?凪?督。窶堙俄?堙遺?堙ィ窶堙懌?堋キツ。

I am confused by long English sentences. (note)

colloquially = ナ津サナ津ェツ(窶佚個)窶堙
frequently = 窶堋オ窶堙寂?堋オ窶堙篠(窶堙ヲ窶堋ュツ)
conditional = ツ湘ーナ陳鞘?堙ー窶「\窶堋キ
preposition = 窶楼窶冰ナスナ
circumstance = ナス窶督湘ョ, ツ湘ョ窶ケツオ; ナス窶毒ステ?

Especially must or I'm sure that ツ〜
This confused me at first, because I didn't realize that "must" and "I'm sure that ツ〜" were parts of a text that you were quoting. This can be made clear simply by using quotation marks ("").


窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙坂?堙坂?堋カ窶堙淒ス窶樞?堙ーツ債ャ窶板絶?堋ウ窶堋ケ窶堙懌?堋オ窶堋スツ。窶堙遺?堋コ窶堙遺?堙ァナス窶樞?堙?must"窶堙?I'm sure that ツ〜"窶堋?窶堙遺?堋ス窶堋ェヒ?ク窶廃窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶「ツカナスナ。窶氾アツ(= text?ツ)窶堙戸?ェ窶「窶昶?堋セ窶堙??堋「窶堋、窶堋ア窶堙??堋ェ窶堋ェ窶堙坂?堙≫?堋ォ窶堙ィ窶堙??板昶?ーテー窶堙??堋ォ窶堙遺?堋ゥ窶堙≫?堋スツ。窶堋ア窶堙ェ窶堙才?ク窶廃窶「{窶堙ーナスg窶堋、ナス窶凪?堙俄?堙ヲ窶堙≫?堙??堙ュ窶堋ゥ窶堙ィ窶堙「窶堋キ窶堋ュ(= simple)窶督セナ?m窶堙俄?堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堙ゥ窶堙??堋?窶堙ォ窶堋、ツ。

I'm sorry. I should have used quotation marks to that sentence.

quotation = ヒ?ク窶廃, ヒ?ク窶廃ナ津ェツ[窶ケテ・ツ,窶「ツカツ](quotation marks = ヒ?ク窶廃窶「窶?
realize = ナ陳サ窶堋キ窶堙ゥ; ナステ看ステ?窶廬窶堙俄?「\窶堋キ; ナ陳サナステ?窶堙ァ窶堋オ窶堋ュナ陳ゥ窶堋ケ窶堙ゥ; ナステ?ナ?'窶堋キ窶堙ゥ,

I didn't have no confidence about them though.....

This sentence is technically wrong, but it has its uses. It sounds like a dialect, particularly one spoken by lower class people. The reason is that you used a double negative: "didn't" and "no." This sentence would be OK if you wanted to sound highly informal, but if you want to use proper English then it should correctly be either "I didn't have any confidence ツ〜" or "I had no confidence ツ〜."


窶堋ア窶堙娯?「ツカ窶堙坂?ケZツ術窶廬窶堙嫁?テ藩?。窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶堋オ窶堋ゥ窶堋オ窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙坂?堋サ窶堙娯?廃窶徨窶堙ーツ行窶堙≫?堙??堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。(?)窶堋サ窶堙ェ窶堙坂?「テサナ陳セ窶堙娯?堙ヲ窶堋、窶堙俄?「ツキ窶堋ア窶堋ヲ窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶愿≫?堙
窶愿≫?堙俄?ーツコ窶?ナ?K窶ケ窶ーツ人ツ々窶堙俄?堙ヲ窶堙≫?堙?彙窶堋ウ窶堙ェ窶堙懌?堋キツ。窶堋サ窶堙娯?板昶?燃窶堙坂?堋?窶堙遺?堋ス窶堋ェ窶啣ツ重窶堙娯?敕帚?凖ィ窶堙ーナスg窶堙≫?堋ス窶堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙??堋キツ。ツ"didn't" and "no"窶堋ア窶堙娯?「ツカ窶堙坂?堋?窶堙遺?堋ス窶堋ェ窶伉ス窶堋「窶堙俄?敕アナ津カナスツョ窶堙娯?ーツケ窶堙ー窶転窶堙樞?堙娯?堙遺?堙ァOK窶堙??堋?窶堙ゥ窶堙??堋オ窶堙・窶堋、ツ。窶堋オ窶堋ゥ窶堋オツ、窶堙?窶堋オ窶堋?窶堙遺?堋ス窶堋ェツ青ウ窶堋オ窶堋「窶ーpナ津ェ窶堙ーナスg窶堋「窶堋ス窶堋「窶堙娯?堙遺?堙ァツ、ツ青ウ窶堋オ窶堋ュ"I didn't have any confidence ツ〜."窶堙懌?堋ス窶堙?I had no confidence ツ〜."窶堙娯?堙??堋ソ窶堙ァ窶堋ゥ窶堙??堋?窶堙ゥ窶堙冷?堋ォ窶堙??堋キツ。

dialect = 窶「テサナ陳セ
particularly = 窶愿≫?堙? 窶堙??堙ィ窶堙ュ窶堋ッ; 窶堋「窶堙や?堙俄?堙遺?堋ュ; ツ湘堋催冷?堙? 窶佚・窶堋「窶堙
negative = 窶敕帚?凖ィ窶堙? 窶ケ窶伉静「窶堙? 窶敖ス窶佚寂?堙? ツ好ヒ?凪?廬窶堙??堙遺?堋「; ツ湘≫?ケテ俄?廬窶堙? 窶督ウ窶ケC窶氾坂?堙? 窶ーA窶彭窶ケC窶堙

I have never made the past tense sentence before.
So I had no confidence in this sentence "I didn't have no confidence about them though...".

Thank you for your explanations, Glenn.
I will need to continue reading this thread again and again. (^^;;;

(^^;hmm I just understood that I made a double negation sentence, and I think so too, Mac.(^^;;;
I don't ignore you.

further = 窶堋ウ窶堙ァ窶堙
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…