I want to learn Chinese

Glenn · 8 Feb 2006

If you're replying to the original poster, he's no longer with us. I seriously doubt he would have gotten anything out of that anyway.

There are some pretty good websites for learning Japanese -- three are in my signature. There are others, too, but I can't think of them offhand. If you do a search for "good Japanese websites" or something like that you should get some good results.

Anyway, welcome to the forum! Any questions you have about Japanese we'll do our best to answer.

Another Aoi Fan · 21 Mar 2006

Inuyasha-the-kid said:
I am sticking with Japanese because that is to hard.

Japanese is harder than Chinese... and if you know Kanji, you know Chinese. Just send me mail if you want to learn! ((Chinese has like... a page of grammer. LITTERALLY))

dreamer · 21 Mar 2006

Another Aoi Fan said:
Japanese is harder than Chinese... and if you know Kanji, you know Chinese. Just send me mail if you want to learn! ((Chinese has like... a page of grammer. LITTERALLY))

Hum...I still encounter weird forms sometimes... one of my teacher litterally told me of a "xong guo bu hen ta" (china isn't very big) and I am still wondering if the sentence is correct...

Supervin · 21 Mar 2006

Hmm, I would say Chinese is a lot harder than Japanese for the learner in general. The thousands of non-phonetic characters plus idioms (chengyu) are already very burdensome.

dreamer said:
Hum...I still encounter weird forms sometimes... one of my teacher litterally told me of a "xong guo bu hen ta" (china isn't very big) and I am still wondering if the sentence is correct...

Technically that sentence is not correct; it should either be "Zhongguo bu shi hen da" (窶吮??ﾂ坂?倪?｢sﾂ青･ﾅ徒窶佚･) or "Zhongguo bu da" (窶吮??ﾂ坂?倪?｢s窶佚･). Probably just a mishearing on your part.

bossel · 21 Mar 2006

Supervin said:
Technically that sentence is not correct; it should either be "Zhongguo bu shi hen da" (窶吮??ﾂ坂?倪?｢sﾂ青･ﾅ徒窶佚･) or "Zhongguo bu da" (窶吮??ﾂ坂?倪?｢s窶佚･). Probably just a mishearing on your part.

Well, maybe it's not school Mandarin, but it's OK in vernacular.

Supervin · 21 Mar 2006

bossel said:
Well, maybe it's not school Mandarin, but it's OK in vernacular.

I would seriously doubt it. It's just too awkward. Do you have any basis for saying that?

I've never heard of such a construction in my experience, whether Standard or in dialect.

bossel · 22 Mar 2006

Supervin said:
I would seriously doubt it. It's just too awkward. Do you have any basis for saying that?

Yep, basis being my girlfriend's mother, who is a teacher in Guangdong. I thought immediately (without that much of a basis, actually) the construction was correct, because I meant to have heard it before. My girlfriend opposed, so she asked her mother. She should know.

Supervin · 22 Mar 2006

Interesting.

I just ran a search; it does seem acceptable after all - albeit being very rare in comparison.

Gaijinian · 22 Mar 2006

dreamer said:
"xong guo bu hen ta"

Wow, I thought Japanese "ro-maji" was annoying. That is such a strange spelling (Plus not a very accurate statement!... Maybe riben, but zhongguo?)

Glenn · 22 Mar 2006

Well, there are only about six different romanization systems for Mandarin.

dreamer · 22 Mar 2006

Supervin said:
Hmm, I would say Chinese is a lot harder than Japanese for the learner in general. The thousands of non-phonetic characters plus idioms (chengyu) are already very burdensome.
Technically that sentence is not correct; it should either be "Zhongguo bu shi hen da" (窶吮??ﾂ坂?倪?｢sﾂ青･ﾅ徒窶佚･) or "Zhongguo bu da" (窶吮??ﾂ坂?倪?｢s窶佚･). Probably just a mishearing on your part.

Well...not a mishearing since she wrote it down on the blackboard... (but this one's from my french teacher, the other teacher won't be back before next week...)

guitar100 · 15 Nov 2006

I am a chinese, i know english and little japaese , At present ,I still have a few problems in english, but I am getting better. can we learn from each other? msn :jita100@hotmail.com

Nicholas Tse · 15 Nov 2006

Another Aoi Fan said:
Japanese is harder than Chinese... and if you know Kanji, you know Chinese. Just send me mail if you want to learn! ((Chinese has like... a page of grammer. LITTERALLY))

No, I don't think you will know chinese if you know kanji! some kanji are different from chinese's and kanji mostly consist traditional chinese words... it's quite different from simplified chinese words......

gofai · 16 Nov 2006

Nicholas Tse said:
No, I don't think you will know Chinese if you know kanji! some kanji are different from Chinese's and kanji mostly consist traditional Chinese words... it's quite different from simplified Chinese words......

Agree, because Chinese character and kanjiﾂ…
1. they have same wording but different meanings- Chinese(japanses)
窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭﾂ to be forced to do something (窶｢ﾃ冷?ｹﾂｭ to study)
ﾅｾﾃｻ窶慊｢ to review a incident (ﾅ椎ｸ窶慊｢ to discuss)
窶卍才? to pay attention to sth or sbd ONLY (窶卍才? warning or to pay attention to sth or sbd)
ﾅ停?凪?ｰﾃ speak loudy and disturb other people (ﾅ停?凪?ｰﾃ to fight)
2. some Chinese character have a similar structure to kanj
ﾂ戰ﾃｩﾂｦ/(ﾂ静ｭ窶慊ｬ)
3. some of them are the same wording but in revered sequence:
in Chinese ﾅｽm窶｢ﾂｺﾋ彗窶｢ﾂｽ
in Japanese 窶｢ﾂｺﾅｽm 窶｢ﾂｽﾋ彗
4. some kanji are made by Japanese, Chinese do not have them originally, they cannot be found in a Chinese dictionary. (may be modified form Chinese characters)
ﾂ渋窶價 -- ﾂ渋 (涉)???
窶板ｳ (窶板ｴ)
ﾂ静ｭ窶慊ｬ (ﾂ戰ﾃｩﾂｦ)
5. many kanji is meaningless in Chinese: (if kanji is translate to Chinese...)
窶堋ｨ窶｢窶藩廚窶堙俄?愿ｼ窶堙ｩ(ﾂ静ｴﾃ?U) ﾂ静倪?｢窶?窶｢[) ﾂ静披?堋ｿ窶堙｡窶堙ｱ(窶ｰd邃｢Z)
窶伉ｲ窶ｹﾃ?ｽﾂｮ(窶｢L窶ｹﾃ??弋ﾃ｢X) 窶禿ｩ窶督ｾ窶堋ｯ(ﾃｪt窶督ｾ/窶愿ｺﾂ出) 窶敕ｲﾂ行窶ｹ@ (窶敕ｲ窶ｹ@) 窶｢ﾃ吮?懌??窶敕妥｡')
6. Some kanji is imported from ancient Chinese, now they are not used in Chinese
窶懌? in ancient Chinese meaning: hot water, now it become soup.
窶懌? in japnese meaning: hot water
I come from Hong Kong, just know a little Japanese and English. If there are any mistakes, please correct them.

Nevertheless, there are many Chinese character and Japanese kanji have same meaning and similar pronunciation. So that It help you to learn Japanese if you learnt Chinese (I prefer Traditional Chinese), and vice versa.

jenniferlin · 22 Dec 2006

hello ,veryone ,I am a Chinese girl ,nice to meet everyone here ,this is my first time to leave the words here.

Grandpa Frank · 22 Dec 2006

jenniferlin said:
hello ,veryone ,I am a Chinese girl ,nice to meet everyone here ,this is my first time to leave the words here.

Welcome to the JREF Forum Jenniferlin, what a beautiful user name you picked!

Uncle Frank

Aoi. · 4 Jan 2007

Gaijinian said:
中國是VERY好!

Ah, I just laughed at that, it's so cute~!

You want to learn Chinese? :x

Good luck. I hate Chinese.

Still, I want to take Japanese, Kanji, Katakana, all that neat stuffs, so I guess I better work hard in Chinese again~

I'm from Taiwan, not Mainland China so I'm not quite sure what China does. [Yes, I think Taiwan should be an independant country. Hands off.]

梁铠赞 said:
我很笨 I like it but it hard(for me) T_T

Very good~! At first I skimmed over it, and I read, "I am a vegetable." :x. Then I went, "Ah, sorry. :sorry:"

My Chinese dictionary, is like...huge.

i'm yoong · 31 May 2007

Inuyasha-the-kid~!!do you want to learn chinese,i can teaching you but you better to know chinese word and chinese pronounce frist,because i teaching to you usually all using chinese words.
if you real want to learning chinese please mail to me.

and hope you in the future can speaking fluently chinese.^_^

hot12lips12 · 18 Aug 2007

nanda said:
they said there're 2 types of kanji: china's and taiwan's
and taiwanese's kanji is more complicated than china's
what should i learn? i mean, which kanji is commonly used by chinese, or japanese, or taiwanese, well .. by people

the taiwanese kanji is the old/traditional one, it's like the same or more similar to japanese kanji. but i think if you learn just one type of the kanji the other one will be very,very easy to learn/memorize...
so maybe you should learn the simplified one first (since it's easier) and then you can understand the traditional one without even learning it, but pretty much only understand not memorize...

hot12lips12 · 18 Aug 2007

Another Aoi Fan said:
Japanese is harder than Chinese... and if you know Kanji, you know Chinese. Just send me mail if you want to learn! ((Chinese has like... a page of grammer. LITTERALLY))

really? why? is it because of the usage? because I thought the Chinese pronunciations is harder than the Japaneses ones

Constantine · 2 Jan 2008

Well

Personally I recommend you to get some friends who are a native Chinese speakers.
But the most important thing lies in the fact that whether you inherently possess a deep attachment to the very culture of that language. It can give you an incessant flow of impetus to move on along the harsh process of learning it.

mammonth · 6 Aug 2008

I am happy to help you learn Chinese.
You can contact me with ICQ: 231599948

GabbyWll · 26 Aug 2008

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sxdxland · 24 Nov 2008

may be i can help you . i want to learn English too.can contact me.
窶ｰﾃ､ﾅ徒乐ﾋ??#24110;你ﾂ。窶ｰﾃ､窶禿ｧﾂ青ｳ窶?ﾅ?w窶ｰp语ﾂ。窶ｰﾃね??#32852;ﾅ地窶ｰﾃ､ﾂ。
my MSN/Email is sxdx1089#163.com

Yukiko chan · 29 Dec 2008

I'm very interested in Chinese, but I won't start learning it until I can speak Japanese fluently enough... that would take a couple of years perhaps...

I want to learn Chinese

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