Making friend online is a great idea! it came across my mind but i didn't really think more about it for some reason... I'll look into it more! and yeah I haven't really thought about where I should go as I was thinking I would go wherever was best to meet people or something like that.I would start by making some friends online that you may be able to meet in real life some day. There are many people interested in improving their English. Once you settle on a location you could target your online relationships towards that place.
You could try to finding a language program even a short one. My first trip to Japan was for a month-long language course in the summer at a university which included two weeks in a dorm and two weeks home stay and a lot of activities with other young people. It's still one of the best trips of my life. It wasn't an exchange program. I don't think there was any special requirement to get in. Just money.
Everything was more or less scheduled but there was plenty of free time built in. So I had time to walk around the school neighborhood. Go to the shopping center and local stores. Go out with classmates, and not just the foreign ones as there were normal Japanese students there. One weekend evening most of us summer students went into Tokyo (from Chiba) to go to a club. Went on hikes and various places with my hostmom. Commuted from her home to the school via train just as a local would. Of course the week days were mainly taken up with the schooling. That part I don't remember hardly any of it except having to remember and recite a haiku. That particular program is long shut down otherwise I'd give you more details but I'm sure there are plenty of other options out there. Then after the school thing I traveled a little bit down to Osaka and Kyoto. This was all 30 years ago.When you went on yours how much freedom did you have? were you mostly with your group or could you go off by yourself a bit?
Thanks so much for your replies they've been very helpful! It was good to hear you experience even if it was 30 years ago!(I think its super cool you went that long ago) and it sounds like these programs shouldn't be to different from back then, I'll continue to look into it further and I think your right once I find some people I can be introduced to more peopleEverything was more or less scheduled but there was plenty of free time built in. So I had time to walk around the school neighborhood. Go to the shopping center and local stores. Go out with classmates, and not just the foreign ones as there were normal Japanese students there. One weekend evening most of us summer students went into Tokyo (from Chiba) to go to a club. Went on hikes and various places with my hostmom. Commuted from her home to the school via train just as a local would. Of course the week days were mainly taken up with the schooling. That part I don't remember hardly any of it except having to remember and recite a haiku. That particular program is long shut down otherwise I'd give you more details but I'm sure there are plenty of other options out there. Then after the school thing I traveled a little bit down to Osaka and Kyoto. This was all 30 years ago.
A couple years later I found a job in Japan and went there to work and even back then I made a couple friends online before I went. (Of course "online" back then didn't mean quite the same thing. It was probably via USENET.) Although they weren't natives after we met in person they introduced me to a lot of other people and I met a lot of local Japanese people and made a lot of friends that way.
The point being once you know a couple of people, start going to events or interest-based activities it will all quickly snowball from there.
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I agree, a lot of people are focused on studies and thigs like that, if I travel to japan with a language program hopefully that can help a bit, tho there are a lot of people and I've and I'm sure some would be interested in doing somethings, but yes that's a good thing to think about.As a not-young-anymore person I don't really know what they get up to, I think a challenge in meeting "young people" is that they seem to have most of their time spoken for, are still in school or working towards exams which are stressful and demanding. Oftentimes kids will have a narrow or single major interest that their life revolves around, so unless you share the same interest there's little chance of spending more time together.
I think I might also stay in a hostel like you said (maybe after doing some language program that takes me over to japan with other people) and meet some people a little older than me, some of my Swedish relatives recently came over to AUS, I traveled around with them a bit, it worked well as a few years age gap now isn't such a difference compared to when your 13 and two years a bigger gap (plus I look older than I am and probably slightly more mature than the av 17yo)Meeting people in their 20's is maybe a little easier, as I've met people staying in hostels and hung out with them for a while; the clientele for Japanese inns and hostels is (or was, pre-covid) pretty evenly split between native and foreign travelers.
Good idea, I'll be sure to check out some language exchange sites, a little familiarization with Japanese people would be good before goingMaybe one of those language exchange sites that connect you with people would be a good start to at least get practice talking to Japanese people, and give you a better feel.
Most Japanese folks seem to maintain friend groups from their school days, and tend to bond through shared experiences--or trauma, if you will. I've always found programs that brought people together, even briefly, have proven to be a good recipe for making new friends. Organized trips, especially around a shared interest like hiking, diving, biking, skiing, etc, can be a good way to find people you click with, and let friendship develop more naturally. I was in a college exchange program and it had a profound effect on my life and gave me several lasting friendships. There was a short gasshuku-style trip organized by a school group that also introduced me to a variety of folks from around the world.
Yes, as you get older you have your friends and you work so you kinda stay inside your bubbles as you said, and the language barrier is another thing, hopefully my level of proficiency in Japanese will be good enough to communicate well, but as the people I'm looking to connect with will be young hopefully the difference in culture and language will also be something fun and interesting to some, I mean when an exchange student comes to your school from another country (not that that ever happened with me…) you expect a bit of a language barrier and it's always fun to talk to them or do something with them (right!?) hopefully me being a foreigner will be a subject of interest, tho I'm not totally relying on thatIn the adult world in general but especially in Japan it seems that everyone has their own lives and their own stuff going on, and don't generally have or make the time for new friends; people don't really reach outside of their bubbles to expand them for a number of reasons. Language barriers are an added layer to that hesitancy, unless you find someone who is also seeking to break through it. Start with your own hobbies and interests, especially in language exchange as a baseline, and from there you can come up with ways to connect with Japanese people online, so you have some pre-established connections before you head over. At any rate, don't rely too much on tenuous connections you make, things fall through and when you travel you have to be flexible and willing to go it alone if needed.
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Well, it really depends on the hobbies in question, where you are, and what organizations around you cater to that crowd. If you are in a program of some sort, they'll usually have partnerships or their own organized trips. When I was an exchange student, there were several arranged trips with my peers in the program, which were baked into the schedule. The smaller gasshuku-style trip I mentioned was organized by a dorm at my school that hosted international students (I didn't stay in the dorm, but I was still able to participate). Other groups within the school like clubs and circles and student organizations also had their own events and outings; you didn't have to go far to find groups to participate in, which is why I recommend starting with your interests.Good idea, I'll be sure to check out some language exchange sites, a little familiarization with Japanese people would be good before going
Yes after some replies from people I think going with some language program that takes me over there with other people would be good. Now with organized trips… could you talk about that a bit more? do you know where to join them/where there organized or anything like that? I snowboard and mtb plus I like hiking and live near the coast so diving is possible too (I've never thought about diving in japan or anything to do with getting in water… except onsens… I love thermal springsnow I'm very curious about japan's waters.. off I go to research, tho I probably wont go diving in japan, at least not this time) I haven't actually thought about it other organized groups before that are unrelated to school, apart from thinking I could join some random class that I'm interested in (not associated with a school) and ask the teach/instructor if I could join in.
Japanese proficiency will go a long way to helping melt that barrier... I actually prefer to call it a hurdle, as it's totally surmountable--no matter how high--if both parties are willing. Your identity as a foreigner will undoubtedly be an element in your interaction, as it can be a novelty to some extent: much in the same way you're seeking Japanese friends, there are Japanese people who wish to make more foreign friends and expand their own world. This can be a good starting point, but deeper connections will come from sharing more than a common interest in foreign cultures, or just wanting to learn each other's language.Yes, as you get older you have your friends and you work so you kinda stay inside your bubbles as you said, and the language barrier is another thing, hopefully my level of proficiency in Japanese will be good enough to communicate well, but as the people I'm looking to connect with will be young hopefully the difference in culture and language will also be something fun and interesting to some, I mean when an exchange student comes to your school from another country (not that that ever happened with me…) you expect a bit of a language barrier and it's always fun to talk to them or do something with them (right!?) hopefully me being a foreigner will be a subject of interest, tho I'm not totally relying on that. And I'll try talking with some Japanese people before I go
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Thanks mdchachi, appreciate your repliesThere's some good scuba diving in Japan. Near Tokyo most people go to Atami. I went there a several times. That's where I earned my PADI advanced.
There's also plenty of skiing & snowboarding. From Tokyo that requires shinkansen ride usually.
For those kinds of activities all you really need is time and money. Of course there are plenty of free things to do too.