ha and dzu

marnor9004 · 4 Dec 2015

Hey. I heard
は is pronounced わ
But is this rule the same all the time?
I mean each and every character.

and how is づ pronounced? dzu with the d or just zu?
Thanks in advance.

Mike Cash · 4 Dec 2015

Aren't you the fellow who has been teaching himself Japanese from comic books for about a year now?

It is read as "wa" when used as a particle grammatical marker). At all other times it is read as "ha".

You don't pronounce the "d".

If you want to learn Japanese you should get a textbook and learn it properly. You would make much more progress.

marnor9004 · 4 Dec 2015

I'm still not giving up on the comic books No offense I'm learning from internet as well.
Why is konnichiha pronounced konnichiwa, how to know when its a particle? Thanks. Naruto be with you.

mdchachi · 5 Dec 2015

marnor9004 said:
Why is konnichiha pronounced konnichiwa, how to know when its a particle? Thanks. Naruto be with you.

That's just the way it is. There's no real "why" about it. Actually Ha/Wa differentiation is relatively easy because it's pretty much always pronounced Wa when it appears outside of a word. It may be confusing to differentiate words sometimes though, especially if you're not using kanji. Consider:
ははいたい HA WA ITAI (歯は痛い)
はははおちゃがすき HAHA WA OCHA GA SUKI (母はお茶が好き)

nekojita · 5 Dec 2015

Well, there is a historical reason (the origin of the word こんにちは is a shortening from a longer sentence starting 今日は ), but understanding where something came X hundred years ago from is less important than understanding how to use it today.

こんばんは is "wa" for the same reason. A textbook or course with audio material (dialogues to listen along to) is a good way to avoid mislearning these.

lanthas · 5 Dec 2015

nekojita said:
understanding where something came X hundred years ago from is less important than understanding how to use it today.

To the point that even Japanese occasionally write it as こんにちわ～. As a joke I assume; but then again there's this site...

mdchachi · 5 Dec 2015

lanthas said:
To the point that even Japanese occasionally write it as こんにちわ～. As a joke I assume; but then again there's this site...

Looks like they gave up. According to the profile page, the organization became inactive in 2009. I guess we'll have to live with the は indefinitely now.

nekojita · 5 Dec 2015

Well, or until the next kana reform. Just be glad we're not writing けふ for きょう these days

Mike Cash · 5 Dec 2015

nekojita said:
Well, or until the next kana reform. Just be glad we're not writing けふ for きょう these days

I kind of like the 旧仮名遣い

marnor9004 · 26 Feb 2016

Mike Cash said:
Aren't you the fellow who has been teaching himself Japanese from comic books for about a year now?

It is read as "wa" when used as a particle grammatical marker). At all other times it is read as "ha".

You don't pronounce the "d".

If you want to learn Japanese you should get a textbook and learn it properly. You would make much more progress.

(Sorry for posting here again) But why does google say Tsudzuki in the roumaji box when there is a づ? See I had a reason not to be sure.

mdchachi · 26 Feb 2016

marnor9004 said:
(Sorry for posting here again) But why does google say Tsudzuki in the roumaji box when there is a づ? See I had a reason not to be sure.

Mainly this is in order to differentiate it from zu (ず).

ha and dzu

marnor9004

Kouhai

Mike Cash

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marnor9004

Kouhai

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nekojita

先輩

lanthas

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nekojita

先輩

Mike Cash

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marnor9004

Kouhai

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