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Why Japan make Chinese so angry

12 Apr 2005
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☝ Please don't just analysis an event from its surface. It is wrong for Chinese to damaging Japanese's properties, but we must think about why Japan make us so angry. It is because the horrible thinking that the previous message I have mentioned. We should not be cheated by Japanese kind and peaceful face.
 
Why China gets so angry?

1 China must get much ODA(Official Development Assistance) money from Japan.
2 China plans to occupy Taiwan.
3 Now, the Dalai Lama comes to Japan.
 
ide like to add to miles post that number 4. Japan has a habit of just disregarding and/or ignoring people who arnt happy with them, good or bad, this kinda behaviour in international politics is going to come back and bite japan in the ***.
 
China has enough blood on its own hands that it never teaches to its citizens. China has illegal, well-known, wide-spread torturing of its own arrested citizens forcing confessions. China is Communist - a communism that is twisted from its original design. China has enough of its own problems and the Chinese should focus on changing their own situation.

But wait. You can't, or you'll be imprisoned, or dissappear...

Even if Japan changed its education policy, the Chinese would still hate the Japanese as it is deep-rooted hate.
 
Don't become a face-to-face scolding ....

I 've learnt from the textbook that yes, Chinese have killed millions of people both in Qin Dynasty also in Qing Dynasty , also in other period , yes , we think that's curel ,but it's our civil thing , in other word, we can apologize for them , representing for the gov't .But , for Japan , I think it's beyond the range of the country , it's a international issue. We never invade Japan though we are in super power in Tang Dynasty , we also give back the indemnity to Japan after the WWII.

But what about Japan?

1. Imbue the Children with distorted history .
2. Trying to get the island (in Chinese , it's called Fishing Island)
3. Trying to get the oil in the China's Eastern Sea.
4. Junichiro Koizumi 's pray

The last participation into the UN Security Council is the fuse for these series of issues.
 
FireyRei said:
China has enough blood on its own hands that it never teaches to its citizens. China has illegal, well-known, wide-spread torturing of its own arrested citizens forcing confessions. China is Communist - a communism that is twisted from its original design. China has enough of its own problems and the Chinese should focus on changing their own situation.

But wait. You can't, or you'll be imprisoned, or dissappear...

Even if Japan changed its education policy, the Chinese would still hate the Japanese as it is deep-rooted hate.


i don't agree with you..the big problem between china and Japan that is what is the real history. if the both sides could make a agreement on history, so that china and Japan will be the best friends, brothers.
 
FireyRei said:
China has enough blood on its own hands that it never teaches to its citizens. China has illegal, well-known, wide-spread torturing of its own arrested citizens forcing confessions. China is Communist - a communism that is twisted from its original design. China has enough of its own problems and the Chinese should focus on changing their own situation.

But wait. You can't, or you'll be imprisoned, or dissappear...

Even if Japan changed its education policy, the Chinese would still hate the Japanese as it is deep-rooted hate.

It's just so funny that outside world believe Beijing has tens of thousands of domestic problems to be solved. I have to admit that, yes, our hands are not clean---Religion, freedom of speech...there are problems. But have a look, mate, we are on the track to be "normal".

One more thing, why you assume "Even if Japan changed its education policy, the Chinese would still hate the Japanese as it is deep-rooted hate"? :?
Lots of Chinese have a negative impression on Japan simply because they think Japan can not face the past.

Just shrug it off and let it go is no good at all.
 
I think Chinese and Korean have never read Japanese history textbook published by Fuso-sha.
They must read it before referring to education of Japan.
Chinese and Korean should make an effort to get freedom of speech and the press before blaming Japan.
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miles7tp said:
I think Chinese and Korean have never read Japanese history textbook published by Fuso-sha.
They must read it before referring to education of Japan.
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here is the link to the new Japanese history textbook published by Fuso-sha, go read it.
http://www.tsukurukai.com/05_rekisi_text/rekisitext.html

if anyone thinks it is not a whitewashed textbook, they should go pick up an English history textbook and learn about the truth.
 
Dream Time said:
here is the link to the new Japanese history textbook published by Fuso-sha, go read it.
http://www.tsukurukai.com/05_rekisi_text/rekisitext.html

if anyone thinks it is not a whitewashed textbook, they should go pick up an English history textbook and learn about the truth.


But is it not a school book? Therefore comparing it to any English history book would be a mistake. You would have to pick up an English School History book. which would make the case very differnt.

Schools cant learn everything about the war they can only focus on areas in detail and mention the other parts in little detail. As i have said in another post. When i was as school i never learnt anything about Dresden

'An area of 15 square kilometers was totally destroyed, among that: 14,000 homes, 72 schools, 22 hospitals, 19 churches, 5 theaters, 50 bank and insurance companies, 31 department stores, 31 large hotels, and 62 administration buildings. '

And of course about 40,000 people. One night of bombing a civilian target.
 
miles7tp said:
Have you read it ?
Can you find a mistake,a fabrication, or a problem?
🙂

there are many problems in the textbook,
i will just repost of what i posted in another thread.

http://www.tsukurukai.com/05_rekisi...text_index.html

Chapter 5, page 270, Sino-Japanese war

1937ツ(ツ渉コヒ彗12ツ)窶扼窶啖ナ椎ス窶啖窶愿コ窶禿ゥツ,窶徒窶ケナセツ郊ナ?O窶堙古。ツクツ溝窶ケ'窶堙?,窶ー窶ー ツ習窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶堙嫁津シ窶堋ッ窶堙??ーツスナステ停?堋ゥ窶堋ェ窶敖ュ窶鼎窶堋キ窶堙ゥナス窶毒陳鞘?堋ェ窶堋ィ窶堋ア窶堙≫?堋スツ。窶披?壺?卍ゥ窶堙俄?堙債,窶吮??ツ坂?倪?堙個坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ナ坦窶堙??堙固?テ披?堙?静ュ窶慊ャツ湘ウ窶佚披?堙俄?堙 窶堙≫?堋スツ(テ。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ナス窶毒陳渉)ツ。ナ陳サ窶冢窶ーテーナ塚??堋ェ窶堙坂?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堋ス窶堋ェツ,窶堙「窶堋ェ窶堙??愿コ窶怒窶伉、窶堙?窶佚・窶ケK窶禿坂?堙遺?拮窶「ツコ窶堙ー窶督ス窶堋カツ,ツ坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ツ青ュ窶「{窶堙?窶堋ス窶堋セ窶堋ソ窶堙俄?慊ョ ヒ?オ窶氾溪?堙ー窶敖ュ窶堋オ窶堋スツ。ヒ?闇津」窶啗窶扼ナ?テ披?堙俄?堙ュ窶堋ス窶堙≫?堙??愿コ窶吮??ツ静ュ窶侏??堋ェナ恥窶伉ア窶堋オ 窶堋スツ。
translation: in a night of July 7th 1937, at the Lugou Bridge in Beijing. Someone fired shots at the Japanese army. The next morning, the Japanese army was in war with the Chinese Nationlist army. (Lugou Bridge Incident) Although they wanted to solve the matter at the place, Japan dispatched troops on a large scale. The Nationlist government immediately issued the mobilization order. Hereafter, entered the 8-year long Sino-Japanese war.


the truth:
the Japanese army were illegally stationing in China, of course the Chinese army had to defend the land. also, before the July 7th of 1937, the Japanese soldiers also had fired guns. there are no evidences to indicate the Chinese soldiers fired guns first.
 
for the Chinese members, below is an article about the Japanese history textbook, it talks about the fabrications in the textbooks, the editor of 'the study of the war against Japan' responds to the contents of the Japanese history textbook and gave facts about the war.






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2001窶敕??「s窶凖ア窶愿コ窶怒ナステアツ静ヲツ催敕ヲツイ窶懌?。ナ?C窶禿環襲擊ツ青エナ坦ツ,ナスツァ窶廃ナセB窶凪??窶廬ツ"窶愿コツ青エ邃「_ナ坦テ。ツ「ツ青カツ湘補?愿仰,窶愿コツ青エツ戰テ?ツ・ナ?Jナスn窶板ケツ。ツ"

窶倪?板審窶怒窶伉・ツ進ヒ?ェ步ヒ彡窶ケテ闇ス窶凪?コ窶ーツ:ツ"ツ青エ窶「s窶?ナスツクツ掉ツ催?津」窶廬窶卍ゥツ貢ナ。ツ?窶卍ゥ窶朗ツ,ナ?Jナスn窶コ窶吮?愿コ窶怒ツ催ャヒ?冷?廨ツ人ツ。窶愿コ窶怒ツ進ツ行窶板ケ窶愿コツ青エヒ彗窶愿コ窶ーテ「邃「_ツ湘ェツ戰テ?ツ・ツ,ツ就ツ青・窶燃ヒ慊ー窶愬塚慊ア窶廬窶昶?。ナステュナ。ツ?ツ催崚ィツ税地ツ。ツ"

ナセテ??帚?禿伉:ツ甲ナ津淞戰テ?ツ・ナ陳ケヒ慊ー1890窶扼窶愿コ窶怒窶佚ヲヒ?ェ窶コナ凪?凖ゥナ。ツ?ヒ愿ー窶ケcツ青ァ窶凖ィ窶廬窶佚・窶板、ツ青ュツ催エ窶凖アツ出窶廬窶藩懌?ーvツ静シ窶禿「窶佚ィツ,窶コ窶吮?氾娯?忱ツ敖ー窶卍」窶廬窶督オ窶慊ェ窶卍シツ静壺?コ窶敖准窶卍ゥ窶朗窶敖シ窶懌?。ヒ彗窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶愬停?徒ツ,ツ催敖最クツ青ュツ催エナスv窶?ナスw窶慊ア窶ーツコツ, 1894窶扼窶愿コ窶怒テ。ツ「窶慊ョ窶吮??窶愿コツ甲ナ津淞戰テ?ツ・ツ,窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ戰窶捏窶「テ?窶昶?ヲツ焦セ窶昶?吮?ケテ「邃「_窶ーツュ邃「_ツ,ナ?窶樞?佚、テ?sヒ彗テ?Oナ津寂?氾ア窶懌?。窶ケ窶ケ窶愿コ窶怒ツ;窶愿コ窶怒窶慊ッナスナセツ出窶「ツコツ侵窶板ェ窶卍ゥ窶朗ツ,ナスナスナ。ツ、ヒ?ェ窶「テ?吞窶「テ?窶氾俄?愬停?敖シ窶懌?。ツ,窶僊窶侏懌?愬セ窶ーテ「テコツコ窶邸ナ。ツ?ナ?ツア涉ツ,ツ催?津」窶燃ツ青エツ青ュ窶「{ツ出3000テ、テ昶┐_窶昶?吮?ケテ「ツ"テヲテ懌?ーテアツ"窶氾俄?愬陳。

ツ ツ 2 ティツ斥慊ーツ"窶愿アツ十ヒ?ェナセナ?ツ"

2001窶敕?「iツ:ツ"窶ーpナ。ツ?ヒ彗窶敕シナ。ツ?窶凖アツ出窶板ケツ抗窶ケcツ,窶愿アツ十ヒ?ェナセナ?窶牌窶ケツ≫?「ツェヒ?稜津愬?ツシツ,窶佚ヲナ津愬?ツシツ青・ナ?テウ窶転ナセナ?ナ?ツシツ,窶敕ュツ催ャヒ?冷?敕ゥ窶督ァツ。窶佚ヲナ津愬?ツシ窶牌窶ケツ?静塲ステウ窶愿コ窶怒ツ人ツ催ャヒ?猟青ュナスツ。ツ、ツ催?ツ青ュヒ彗ナ坦ナス窶毒津壺?禿「ヒ?遺?ケy窶佚・窶氾環購窶敞停?愿コ窶怒ツ青ァ窶「ツ税?テュツ。ツ"

窶倪?板審窶怒ナスg窶廃窶板ケツ"窶牌窶ケツ?"ヒ?ェナスナ陳,邃「ヒ?掉窶板ケ窶ケツュ窶昶?板青ォナ?テ懌?ケ`ヒ彗窶ーp窶敕シツ抗窶ケc窶廬內窶覇ツ,ナスツァナ?ナスナ?テ塚彡窶ケテ按静ゥテ「iツ:ツ"窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶「テサ窶禿看?テコ窶佚停?氾ア窶ケツュ窶廬窶ーテョ窶愿シツ,ナ津シナ。ツ?內ナ?Oナク窶「ヒ廬窶板ケ窶ケテ架?冷?ケ@窶督ァ窶廬窶冖窶敖サ內窶覇ツ,ナスツァナ?ナスツ催?窶佚・ナセナ?ナ?ツシ窶吮??ツ,窶コ窶吮?「テ?窶敕アツ青ウナスツョ窶牌窶ケツ≫?廬ナス窶督坂ぎ窶禿ァ窶氾ア窶愿シツ,ツ青ァ窶伉「窶板ケツ'窶愿アツ十ヒ?ェナセナ?窶牌窶ケツ?'窶廬窶督シテ「iツ,窶吮??ナ。ツ?ナ。ツ?內窶廬窶敖ス窶愿コ窶覗ヒ彑ナ?Jナスnツ坂?塲クテサツ。ツ"窶禿ァツ就ツ青・說ツ,ツ新窶倪?板審窶怒テ「iテ。cナスナセ窶廬窶敖ス窶愿コナ?ツョ窶牢ツ青・窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ青ュ窶「{ツ青ァ窶伉「謊ナ陳セヒ?ク窶ケN窶廬ツ。

ナセテ??帚?禿伉:1915窶扼ツ,窶愿コ窶怒ヒ?遺?「ツ絶?氾才?絶?ケツコナ津シテ・テ債青「ナ?Mツ青ュ窶「{窶凖アツ出窶板ケ窶牢窶禿岩?禿??鉄窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶廬ツ"窶愿アツ十ヒ?ェナセナ?ツ"ツ,ナ?テゥナ。ツ、窶搜ツ焦凪?伉エ窶伉シ窶凖ゥナ。ツ?ナステ・窶ケ`ナ。ツ?窶ーテ??廬ツ催昶?ーテ伉青ィ窶氾催?テ頁セP窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ。テ・テ債青「ナ?Mヒ?稜ステヲ窶慊セ窶愿コ窶怒ナスxナスツ敖,ナ?テョ窶怒窶愬。ナ禿、窶板ケ窶愿アツ十ヒ?ェナセナ?ツ青ソ窶ケツ?。

ツ ツ 3 ティツ斥慊ーツ"窶ケテ」ヒ?ェ窶敖ェツ"ナス窶督敕

2001窶敕?#35498;ツ:ツ"ティツ絶?愬椎坦テ?yナス竄ャナクテ楪洲ナ坦窶敖エ窶卍」ツ催ャティテ?津」ツ,ナ?テウ窶転窶ーテ≫?ケツュ窶コ窶敘クテ楪洲窶廬ツ控ツ青ァツ,窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ人窶廬窶敖ス窶愿コ窶ー^窶慊ョナ槌停?ーツサツ,窶「sツ敕静。ツ「ツ青カ窶展テ「G窶氾アナステ披?ー^ツ行窶廬ナス窶凪?佚板。ツ最クナ?Oツ,窶コ窶昶?愿コ窶怒ヒ愿?#35498;ツ,窶徒窶禿岩?猫窶鷲窶氾シ窶廬ヒ?絶?ケツコツ,窶愿ャ窶禿岩?猫ナ。ツ?窶督ッ窶怡窶廬窶氾坂?氾岩?「sツ敕絶?「N窶ケテ淞。ツ催昶?昶?。ナステュツ湘ョ窶ケツオ窶ーツコツ,窶「窶昶?「ツェティツ絶?愬椎坦ナ坦ナ?ツッツ青ァ窶凖ィ窶板ケ窶凖岩?ーテ淞静ィ窶氾個青ョナ津でクテ楪洲窶ーテーナ塚??禿「窶佚ィ窶廬ナ致划ツ。ツ"

窶倪?板審窶怒ツ敕個青ャ窶板ケツ:ツ"テァツャ窶厖愬。ツ?窶督ッ窶怡窶慊斃?ェ窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶廬窶「N窶ケテ淞,窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ人窶廬窶敖ス窶愿コ窶ー^窶慊ョナ槌停?ーツサツ,窶「sツ敕静。ツ「ツ青カ窶展テ「G窶氾アナステ披?ー^ツ行ヒ彗窶昶?版?Q窶愿コ窶怒窶コ{窶慊カ窶廬ナス窶毒陳渉。ツ最クナ?Oツ,窶コ窶昶?愿コ窶怒ヒ愿?#35498;ツ,窶徒窶禿岩?猫窶鷲窶氾シ窶廬ヒ?絶?ケツコツ,窶愿ャ窶禿岩?猫ナ。ツ?窶督ッ窶怡窶廬窶氾坂?氾岩?「sツ敕絶?「N窶ケテ淞。ツ"窶「\窶督セツ青・ティツ絶?愬椎坦ツ青クツ心ツ催エ划窶廬窶ケテ・ナスq窶禿ァ邃「ヒ?焦凪?板ケツ。

ナセテ??帚?禿伉:1927窶扼ツ春ツ,窶愿コ窶怒窶敘。テ。ツ「窶板ケヒ?遺?ケテ?窶濃ナ?テォ窶ケ@ヒ?冷?愿?青ェ窶廬テ」Sテ?Zナ?テォ窶ケ@ツ,窶昶?。ナスg窶慊セテ。cナスナセ窶廬窶愿コ窶怒ツ青ュ窶「{窶ケ}窶梅窶凖岩?ーテ溪?コ窶敘?Oツ敖ー窶卍」ヒ愿津ァzヒ?塲。ツ?內窶督オツ鞘?堋。窶愿コ窶怒ヒ?毒。ツ、ツ進ヒ?ェ步窶僖ナステヲ窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶愬停?徒ツ,窶燃ツ最クヒ?クテ。ツ「窶板ケツ"窶ケテ」ヒ?ェ窶敖ェツ"ナス窶督敕個。

ツ ツ 4 ティツ斥慊ーテ。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ナス窶督敕

2001窶敕?#35498;ツ:ツ"1937窶扼7ナ椎ス7窶愿コ窶禿ゥツ,ツ催昶?徒窶ケナセツ郊ナ?O窶廬テ。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ツ,テ。ツ「ツ青カ窶板ケ窶猫ツ人ナ津シ窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶佚?ナ?J窶倪?樞?廬ナス窶毒陳渉。窶佚ヲ窶愿ア窶弖ヒ?ェ窶伉?,テ、o窶吮??ナ。ツ?ナ。ツ?窶督ッ窶怡ナ坦窶佚?窶抃ナ?テ板進窶愿シツ戰窶徑狀窶佚板。テ・ツォ窶漏テ。cナスナセツ人ヒ愿ャナ?テウ窶転ナ陳サツ湘ェ窶ーテーナ塚?,窶僊ツ青・窶「s窶ケv窶愿コ窶怒窶「テサ窶禿岩?佚・窶ケK窶禿坂?拮窶「ツコツ,ナ。ツ?窶督ッ窶怡ツ青ュ窶「{窶禿ァ窶板ァ窶伉ヲテ。ツ「窶「z窶板ケ窶慊ョヒ?オ窶氾淞,ツ最クナ津」ツ進窶愿シ窶板ケナスツ敕」窶?窶扼窶廬窶愿コ窶吮??ツ戰テ?ツ・ツ。ツ"

窶倪?板審窶怒窶ケツュ窶卍イツ:ツ"ナス窶毒陳鞘?怒ツ身窶「s窶ーテ淞青・ヒ?ェナ津つ渉ャ窶凪ぎナスCツ,テ・ツォ窶漏ツ人ヒ愿ャナ?テウ窶転ツ就窶冢窶ーテーナ塚?,窶僊ツ青・テ、o窶愿コ窶怒窶「テサ窶禿岩?廬ツ湘補?愿暁ス窶毒陳鞘?「sツ敕静。ツ「ツ青カツ,窶ーテーナ塚?敕娯?慊セツ債「窶愿ッ窶ケNヒ愿陳。ツ"窶禿ァツ就ツ青・說ツ,テ、p窶敕??怒ツ渉ョツ渉ウ窶戳窶愿コ窶怒窶佚・窶ケK窶禿坂?拮窶「ツコツ催敖静ヲツ,ツ新窶敕??怒窶伉・窶コ窶凖。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ナス窶督敕固?ツョ窶牢ナスZツ青ャ窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶廬ツ静凪?戮ツ,ツ青・窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶「テサ窶禿環敖ー窶佚・窶板ケナス窶凪?佚板。

ナセテ??帚?禿伉:ナス窶凪?コ窶ーツ湘」ツ,テヲツイ窶佚、窶廬窶愿コナ坦ヒ?冷?敕ア窶邸窶吮?愬坦ツ,窶吮??ナ。ツ?ナステァナ坦テ。c窶漏窶牌窶ーqナ津ャ窶氾娯?忱ツ,ツ催?937窶扼7ナ椎ス7窶愿コ窶抃窶楼ツ,窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶佚?窶禿ァ窶禄ナ?J窶ーテ溪?倪?楪;ナスツァナ?ナス窶愬セ窶禿壺?楼窶禿ァナク窶懌?猫ナスj窶コ窶ーテヲナ。窶督セ窶吮??ナ。ツ?ナスm窶「ツコナステアツ静ヲナ?J窶倪?楪。

ツ ツ 5 ティツ斥慊ーツ青シヒ??ナス窶督敕

ツ催敖《窶愿コ窶吮??ツ戰テ?ツ・ツ》ヒ?ェツ湘坂?吮??ツ,窶倪?板審窶怒窶敕、2001窶敕?コツ昶?ーテ≫?板ケツ《ツ青シヒ??ナス窶督敕個》ヒ?ェツ静淞,窶伉エ窶吮??說ツ:ツ"窶ケツ、產窶怡ナ?l窶慊セ窶板ケナ。b窶伉ァツ,窶ケツ、產窶怡ヒ?オテ?I窶愿シナ。ツ?窶督ッ窶怡內窶「窶敖,窶佚・テ」テヲツ絶?楪進窶コ窶吮?愿コ窶怒ヒ?ク窶愿シツ戰テ?ツ・窶廬窶挧ナ。テ突彗窶卍ァテァテ頁?ヒ??慊ョツ。ツ"窶禿ァツ就ツ青・說ツ,ツ新窶倪?板審窶怒テ「i窶吮??窶愿コツ戰テ?ツ・ツ青・窶ケツ、產窶怡窶ーA窶電窶卍ァツ債エ窶ケNヒ愿停?廬ツ。

ナセテ??帚?禿伉:1936窶扼12ナ椎スツ,窶吮??ナ。ツ?テ。ツ「ツ青カ窶板ケツ"ツ青シヒ??ナス窶督敕個"ツ,ナス窶凪?コ窶ーツ湘」ツ青シヒ??ナス窶督敕個青・ツ催?#34083;窶ーテョツ静寂?慊ッヒ?督"窶凖「ナス~內ツ戰ツ,ヒ?ェ窶况窶コ窶敘?Oツ"ツ湘ョ窶ケツオ窶ーツコツ,ナ。ツ?窶ケツ、邃「_窶怡ナ?Jナスnツ坂?。ツ催ャ窶廬窶掫ナ段窶ーツコテ。ツ「ツ青カ窶廬ツ,窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ抗窶愿コ窶督ッ窶伉ー窶慊斃?ェツ戰ツ静シヒ?カツ最クツ鞘?ー步ナ椎。窶板ァツ。

ツ ツ 窶コ窶敘?Oツ侵窶板ェ窶「sテ「iツ"ツ侵窶板ェツ"窶ケテ俄?氾坂?ケツュ窶卍イ窶愿コ窶怒窶伉ケナスツク

ツ ツ A ティツ斥慊ー窶コ窶敘?Oテ。ツ「窶慊ョツ戰テ?ツ・

窶ケツウ窶ーテ按鞘?倪?コ窶昶?愿コ窶怒ナスツゥナ津ηスナ?ツ債。窶廬歷ナスナク窶コ窶敘?Oツ侵窶板ェツ戰テ?ツ・ナ渡ヒ愿停?「s窶廃ツ"ツ侵窶板ェツ"窶愿アナスナ。ツ,窶コ窶敕ヲツイツ臣ツ秀窶ケg窶愿シツ侵窶卍ゥ窶朗ツ,窶禿ァテ「iヒ?猟出窶「ツコツ,窶ーE窶犯停?コ{ナステ停?ーテつ湘寂?冢テァ窶。窶ーテー說ツ,ヒ?冷?ーツス窶「s窶廃ツ侵窶板ェツ,ツ青・ヒ?カヒ?猟秀窶ケgツ債ェ窶怒ナク窶懌?拂窶卍ゥ窶朗ナ?テ?催敘?テ。窶板「ツ,窶「s窶ーテ淞青・ナステ倪?慊ケツ,ツ真ツ青ウ窶廬窶禿壺?廬ツ青・ツ青ェ窶「ナセ窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶督セ窶卍ゥツ。窶コ窶斃慊ーツ殖窶督ッ窶慊敘スツ。窶卍ゥ窶朗ツ,ツ新テ、p窶敕??怒窶徭窶ケツュ窶卍イ窶卍ゥ窶朗窶佛突?ェ窶佚シナスティヒ?ェナセテゥツ伸ナ津シ窶愿コ窶怒ツ,窶戞窶ーテ岩?敕ュ窶伉エ窶伉シナ。ツ?窶ーテ?控ツ青ァツ,窶愿コ窶怒窶コ窶卩ステウ窶愬セヒ?絶?ケツコツ,窶「テ?ナ?ナス窶コ窶卍債ケ窶ーテ「ツ催昶?卍ゥ窶朗窶徒窶「窶敘椎。窶板ァ窶廬窶敖ー窶禿伉湘ェテ「iヒ?稜坦ナス窶毒?テョ窶冢ツ,ヒ?稜スツゥナ津?#21534;窶「テ?窶卍ゥ窶朗ツ青ウテ。c窶ーツサツ青ァ窶伉「ナステ佛津サツ。ヒ?塚?ェ窶コ窶斃慊ー窶鷲窶氾シツ催昶?愿アツ戰ナ津」ナ?テコツ出窶「ツコ窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶愬停?徒ツ,窶ケツウ窶ーテ按鞘?佛ク|窶「s邃「テ・ナ。ツ・窶冢窶廃窶板ケツ"ツ侵窶愿シツ"ツ、ツ"ツ侵ツ攻ツ"窶懌┐ナスナ。ナセテゥツ。

ツ ツ B ティツ斥慊ー窶愿ャ窶ケナセ窶佚・窶徊ナスE

2001窶敕?催敖《窶愿コ窶吮??ツ戰テ?ツ・ツ》ヒ?ェツ静溪?廬ツ青ウ窶「ツカ窶吮??窶廬ナ?窶。テ・j內窶ーテ≫?板ケヒ?ェ窶ケテ・ヒ彙ツ:ツ"ツ(窶愿淒スナセツ,窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶佚?窶慊ア窶况窶督ッ眾窶吮??窶禿ァツ出ナ陳サ窶板ケナ徒窶伉スナス竄ャツ渉敘ステ陳,窶昶?。ツ就ツ青・窶愿ャ窶ケナセナス窶毒陳渉)ツ"ツ,窶コ窶吮?佚・窶徊ナスEヒ?按"ナス窶毒陳渉"ヒ?ェナスナ津ァjテァj窶コテヲ窶ーテ淞,窶「ツカナ津」窶凪?斃?暗「cツ渉ャナスナ。テゥ窶懌?ーテョツ湘青:ツ"ティツ斥慊ーナス窶毒陳鞘?廬窶コ窶ーツ催崢湘ョ窶ケツオツ,ナス窶倪?板ソツ湘」窶敕ュテ。ツ「ナ陳サ窶猫ナ徒窶伉ス窶ケ^テェyツ,窶伉カツ催敘?eナステュナ陳ゥ窶ーテーツ,ナ陳サツ催斃慊ケツ催敕?ツ・ヒ彑ツ。ツ"窶昶?。ツ就ナスgナ?窶。テ・j窶吮??窶廬窶愿溪?ケテ・ヒ彙ツ進ヒ?ェ步窶佚・窶佚・ツ静慊扣ツ。

窶倪?板審窶怒窶コ窶卩?窶。テ・j窶吮??窶愿溪?ケテ・ヒ彙邃「ヒ?焦督,窶佚シツ青・ツ催斃?ェ窶卍」窶督シヒ?猟"ヒ?カツ巷ツ戰ナスツァ窶侏懌?愬セ窶挧ナ。テ凪?廬ツ湘」ナ?Cナスs邃「ツスツ"窶廬ツ湘??「テ青湘」窶禿岩?廃ツ渉ャナスナ。窶卍坂?ーテーツ重窶「ナ凪?板ケツ湘」窶禿岩?廬窶愿溪?ケテ・ヒ彙ツ。窶禿ァツ就ツ青・說ツ,窶ケツウ窶ーテ按鞘?伉進ヒ?ェ步窶敕帚?凖ィ窶板ケ窶愿ャ窶ケナセ窶佚・窶徊ナスE窶廬ツ真窶コ窶ーツ青ォツ,ナスツァナ?ナスナ?テエナ津≫?「sヒ愿ーナスgテヲツ、ナステ停?卍才?凪?愬セ窶愿ャ窶ケナセ窶佚・窶徊ナスE窶昶?。ナ津や?禿「窶佚ィツ。

ナセテ??帚?禿伉:1937窶扼12ナ椎ス13窶愿コ窶板スツ敕ュツ,窶愿コナ坦ツ攻ティナ凪?愿ャ窶ケナセツ湘ゥツ,窶コ窶昶?愿ャ窶ケナセナスs窶督ッ窶敕??ーツコナクテォ窶弖ツ催淞行ツ。ツ"窶愿アツ戰ツ"ナ津」窶愬停?ケナセ窶邸窶凖ォ窶コテ淌」S窶戳窶凖ィ窶愿コ窶怒窶廬窶敕?催淒ス窶凪?コ窶ーツ,テ。cナスナセ說窶廬ツ敕嫁スナ。ツ青・20テ、テ斃?按湘」ツ,ナスツァナス窶凪?コ窶ーツ湘」窶コ{ナステ停?廬ナ陳、窶ケ窶?ツ青・30テ、テ斃?按湘」ツ;ナ津」ヒ愿陳,窶禿ァ窶猫ナ徒窶伉スナス窶倪?板ソナスjテヲナ。テヲナ。窶督セ窶愿ャ窶ケナセ窶佚・窶徊ナスE窶愿コナ坦窶廬窶貼ツ行ツ。

ツ ツ C ティツ斥慊ー窶ー窶懌?愬椎。ツ?ツ催崘坦ナス窶凪?邸窶凖ォ

窶倪?板審窶怒テ」窶ケテ」窶昶?コ窶吮?督ソナ坦窶コ窶昶?愿コ窶怒窶廬窶慊敘スツ。テ「iヒ?猟静ィ窶氾娯?慊敘スツ。ツ,ナスツァナ?ナス窶ーテシツ敕娯?板ケ2001窶扼窶敕??廃ナ?rツ渉ャナスナ。テゥ窶懌?ーテョツ湘絶?ー窶懌?愬椎。ツ?ツ催崘坦ナス窶凪?邸窶凖ォ窶敕ア窶邸ツ青ォ窶廬ヒ愿エ窶邸ツ,窶廃テ、oツ青ウ窶「ツカ窶懌┐窶佚・ナスナ。テゥ窶懌?ーテョツ湘絶?板ケ窶ー窶懌?愬椎。ツ?ツ催崘坦ナス窶凪?邸窶凖ォ窶廬窶敕ア窶邸ツ青ォツ,ヒ?猟戰窶敕??禿や┐l窶ケツゥ窶ケテシツ,窶慊ッナスナセ窶戳ヒ?猟"窶卍シ窶愬セツ債。窶弖ツ,窶「]邃「J窶禿ァ窶督「ナ?m窶凖ィツ"ツ,ティテサ窶漏ツ青・ナ?テゥナ。ツ、窶敕帚?戳窶愬停?ケナセツ審窶敖サ窶廬ツ坂?。窶邸ツ青ォツ。

ツ ツ D ティツ斥慊ー窶愿コ窶怒窶廬ツ戰テ?ツ・窶伉ケナスツク

2001窶敕?催敖"ツ戰テ?ツ・窶廬ナ禿娯?ーテ青"ヒ?ェツ湘坂?吮??ツ,窶コ窶吮?愿コ窶怒ツ催ャヒ?冷?ーテ??Qナステ陳焦?ナステウ窶廬窶伉ケナスツクテ、oナステウナ?Qナ。ツ?窶「テ?窶氾アツ,窶僊ツ青・窶廃ナ徒窶佚・窶「テ鯛?「ツ昶?ーテョツ湘絶?板ケ窶愬停?ケナセ窶佚・窶ケテウツ襲窶廬窶禿「窶佚ィツ。

窶倪?板審窶怒窶「sツ催??凖アナステウナ?Qナ。ツ?窶廬窶伉ケナスツクツ,ナスツァツ青・ナ。dツ照停?ケツュ窶卍イ窶愿コ窶怒窶廬窶伉ケナスツクツ,窶「テ?ナ?ナス窶コ窶吮?愿コ窶怒窶廬窶伉ケナスツクテ、oツ"邃「_窶佚・窶ケテ嫁セテ愬ステ・窶ケ`窶廬テ?ツクツ青オナステ停?「テ?窶氾アツ"ツ,窶ケツュ窶卍イツ, ツ"窶佚ヲ窶愿アナスナクツ青「ナ?E窶佚・ツ戰窶凪?毒?テコツ,窶敕シナ。ツ?窶コ窶昶?愬停?ケナセ窶懌┐窶伉スツ敕可湘ゥナスsツ進ツ行窶「s窶ーテ≫┐ツス窶「テ岩?冢窶ケテウツ襲ツ,窶「テ?ナ?ナスツ催敘鄭窶懌?。ヒ彗窶卍キツ催ィ窶愬?窶ーツコ窶板ケナ陳エナスqナ甜ツ。ナスツァナ?ナスツ,窶鷲窶氾シツ昶┐ナ。テ岩?愿コ窶鷲窶吮??窶板ァナセナ?窶禿アツ,ツ侵窶愿シナクテ楪洲ツ,窶「sツ敕静。ツ「ツ青カ窶板ゥ窶僖ツ、ナスEナ?Q窶愿コ窶怒窶「ツス窶督ッ窶廬窶貼ツ行ツ,窶「テッナ?窶。窶愿コナ坦ヒ愿倪?板クツ催?#20839;窶廬窶禿ア60テ、テ昶?愿コ窶怒ツ人窶敕ュ窶ケツュツ青ァ窶コテヲ窶愬セツ青シ窶敘停?藩慷慊アツ,窶敕ュ窶昶?版渡ナス窶毒。ナスツ坂?懌?廬邃「ツァ窶慊ョツ,窶禿ア窶猫10ツ≫?懌?廬ツ人ナス竄ャ窶鉄ツ"ツ。

ツ ツ E ティツ斥慊ー窶愿コ窶怒窶廬ツ戰テ?ツ・ツ催淞行

2001窶敕?#35498;ツ:ツ"ナク窶懌?猫窶戮窶ーツスヒ?ェナ津で。ツ?窶ーテ?ク窶懌?猫ツ催敖戰テ?ツ・窶吮??テ。ツ「ツ青カ窶ーテ淒スEナ?Qヒ彗窶ケs窶佚停?敕ア窶「ツ静・テ、ツ人ヒ?オ窶廬ツ行ヒ?猟,窶愿コ窶怒窶禿ァ窶「s窶氾。ナ?Oツ。ツ戰テ?ツ・窶吮??ツ,窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶佚?窶コ窶斃慊ーヒ愿倪?板ク窶廬窶廨ナ。ツ?ナスm窶「ツコヒ彗窶「ツス窶督ッツ進ツ行窶板ケ窶「sテ。c窶廬ナスEナ?Qヒ彗窶ケs窶佚陳。ツ"窶禿ァツ就ツ青・說ツ,窶伉ヲナスg窶愿コ窶怒ナ?ツア窶板ケナ。テ毒ス窶督,窶禿ァ窶「s窶ーテ溪?敕楪最ク窶敕楪最クツ。

窶倪?板審窶怒窶ケテ坂?ケテ?#35498;ツ:ツ"ナク窶懌?猫ヒ?ェナ津で。ツ?窶ーテ?催敖戰テ?ツ・窶吮??ナク窶懌?猫窶戮窶ーツスナスEナ?Qヒ彗窶ケs窶佚停?敕ア窶「ツ静・テ、ツ人ヒ?オ窶廬ナス窶督湘ョツ,窶愿コ窶怒窶禿ァ窶「s窶氾。ナ?Oツ。ツ"ナク窶懌?猫ツ催??凖ア窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶佚?ツ焦?窶敕?催淞行ツ。

ツ敘クツ《邃「テ陳考ツ湘≫?伉ァツ》

窶コ窶懌?ーテ?催鯛?適/窶怒窶「テア窶ケLナステ陳申邃「ヒ懌?氾ュ
 
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Someone fired shots at the Japanese army.

There are no evidences to indicate the Chinese soldiers fired guns first.

Truth or False, that is a question.

Why do you consider it truth?
Are you the judge of history?
 
miles7tp said:
Someone fired shots at the Japanese army.

There are no evidences to indicate the Chinese soldiers fired guns first.

Truth or False, that is a question.

Why do you consider it truth?
Are you the judge of history?


nope, i wasn't the one who said it, i quoted it from the response from the editor of 'study of the war against Japan', thats how he responded to the contents of the new Japanese history textbook.

whether it is truth or false, it does not really matter,
the Japanese history textbooks claims the Chinese soldiers fired guns first, where is the evidence? nobody even know who shot first, so why did they even say that in the textbook?
they just put the words in there to make the students believe that China 'forced' Japan to fight a war.
 
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Each Japanese history textbooks show you the different view of history.
The view of history is not only one, I think.

The Chinese and Korean history textbook is only one and shows you the only one view of history.

1937ツ(ツ渉コヒ彗12ツ)窶扼窶啖ナ椎ス窶啖窶愿コ窶禿ゥツ,窶徒窶ケナセツ郊ナ?O窶堙古。ツクツ溝窶ケ'窶堙?,窶ー窶ー ツ習窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶堙嫁津シ窶堋ッ窶堙??ーツスナステ停?堋ゥ窶堋ェ窶敖ュ窶鼎窶堋キ窶堙ゥナス窶毒陳鞘?堋ェ窶堋ィ窶堋ア 窶堙≫?堋スツ。窶披?壺?卍ゥ窶堙俄?堙債,窶吮??ツ坂?倪?堙個坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ナ坦窶堙??堙固?テ披?堙?静ュ窶慊ャツ湘ウ窶佚披?堙俄?堙 窶堙≫?堋スツ(テ。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ナス窶毒陳渉)ツ。ナ陳サ窶冢窶ーテーナ塚??堋ェ窶堙坂?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堋ス窶堋ェツ,窶堙「窶堋ェ窶堙 窶愿コ窶怒窶伉、窶堙?窶佚・窶ケK窶禿坂?堙遺?拮窶「ツコ窶堙ー窶督ス窶堋カツ,ツ坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ツ青ュ窶「{窶堙?窶堋ス窶堋セ窶堋ソ窶堙俄?慊ョ ヒ?オ窶氾溪?堙ー窶敖ュ窶堋オ窶堋スツ。ヒ?闇津」窶啗窶扼ナ?テ披?堙俄?堙ュ窶堋ス窶堙≫?堙??愿コ窶吮??ツ静ュ窶侏??堋ェナ恥窶伉ア窶堋オ 窶堋スツ。

true or not true?
🙂
 
miles7tp said:
1937ツ(ツ渉コヒ彗12ツ)窶扼窶啖ナ椎ス窶啖窶愿コ窶禿ゥツ, 窶徒窶ケナセツ郊ナ?O窶堙古。ツクツ溝窶ケ'窶堙?, 窶ー窶ー ツ習窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶堙嫁津シ窶堋ッ窶堙??ーツスナステ停?堋ゥ窶堋ェ窶敖ュ窶鼎窶堋キ窶堙ゥナス窶毒陳鞘?堋ェ窶堋ィ窶堋ア 窶堙≫?堋スツ。 窶披?壺?卍ゥ窶堙俄?堙債, 窶吮??ツ坂?倪?堙個坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ナ坦窶堙??堙固?テ披?堙?静ュ窶慊ャツ湘ウ窶佚披?堙俄?堙遺?堙≫?堋ス ツ(テ。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ナス窶毒陳渉)ツ。 ナ陳サ窶冢窶ーテーナ塚??堋ェ窶堙坂?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堋ス窶堋ェツ, 窶堙「窶堋ェ窶堙??愿コ窶怒窶伉、窶堙?窶佚・窶ケK窶禿坂?堙遺?拮窶「ツコ窶堙ー窶督ス窶堋カツ, ツ坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ツ青ュ窶「{窶堙?窶堋ス窶堋セ窶堋ソ窶堙俄?慊ョヒ?オ窶氾溪?堙ー窶敖ュ窶堋オ窶堋スツ。 ヒ?闇津」窶啗窶扼ナ?テ披?堙俄?堙ュ窶堋ス窶堙≫?堙??愿コ窶吮??ツ静ュ窶侏??堋ェナ恥窶伉ア窶堋オ窶堋スツ。

true or not true?
🙂

True, technically true but misleading or false ?

It's all in how you ask the question.
 
miles7tp said:
Each Japanese history textbooks show you the different view of history.
The view of history is not only one, I think.

The Chinese and Korean history textbook is only one and shows you the only one view of history.

1937ツ(ツ渉コヒ彗12ツ)窶扼窶啖ナ椎ス窶啖窶愿コ窶禿ゥツ,窶徒窶ケナセツ郊ナ?O窶堙古。ツクツ溝窶ケ'窶堙?,窶ー窶ー ツ習窶堋オ窶堙??堋「窶堋ス窶愿コ窶怒ナ坦窶堙嫁津シ窶堋ッ窶堙??ーツスナステ停?堋ゥ窶堋ェ窶敖ュ窶鼎窶堋キ窶堙ゥナス窶毒陳鞘?堋ェ窶堋ィ窶堋ア 窶堙≫?堋スツ。窶披?壺?卍ゥ窶堙俄?堙債,窶吮??ツ坂?倪?堙個坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ナ坦窶堙??堙固?テ披?堙?静ュ窶慊ャツ湘ウ窶佚披?堙俄?堙 窶堙≫?堋スツ(テ。ツクツ溝窶ケ'ナス窶毒陳渉)ツ。ナ陳サ窶冢窶ーテーナ塚??堋ェ窶堙坂?堋ゥ窶堙ァ窶堙ェ窶堋ス窶堋ェツ,窶堙「窶堋ェ窶堙 窶愿コ窶怒窶伉、窶堙?窶佚・窶ケK窶禿坂?堙遺?拮窶「ツコ窶堙ー窶督ス窶堋カツ,ツ坂?倪?督ッ窶怡ツ青ュ窶「{窶堙?窶堋ス窶堋セ窶堋ソ窶堙俄?慊ョ ヒ?オ窶氾溪?堙ー窶敖ュ窶堋オ窶堋スツ。ヒ?闇津」窶啗窶扼ナ?テ披?堙俄?堙ュ窶堋ス窶堙≫?堙??愿コ窶吮??ツ静ュ窶侏??堋ェナ恥窶伉ア窶堋オ 窶堋スツ。

true or not true?
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the content is misleading

who fired the shots first? who knows?
nobody knows, so why they say that the Chinese soldiers fired shots first?
 
to Dream Time
You had better study reading.

All Chinese students get Anti-Japan education of all subjects.
They sing songs of fighting with Japanese in the musical textbook.
A story that child fights with Japanese appears in the textbook of Chinese language.
Chinese history textbook fans the flames of ill feeling against Japanese.
The number of victims is written exaggeratedly and the damage of a civil war is shifted onto Japan.
The fact that Chinese cruelly killed Japanese women and children is never written.
ツ催鞘?愿ャナス窶毒陳鞘?堙??堋ゥ窶堙仰。

Korean history textbook is a fantasy.
Korean President and Korean say that our history has 5000 years. But 3000 years is a myth made in 12 century.
Korean dramatize history to keep self-esteem.
For a long time Korea had been giving many VIRGINS to China as present. Such virgins are sex slaves, aren't they?
Why do China and Korea never write this fact in their history textbook?
China never write the fact that China had destroyed, raped and plundered Korea in Chinese history textbook.
Why do not Korea make a strong protest against China?
:?
You can find many obvious wrong descriptions in Chinese and Korean history textbook.
 
miles7tp said:
All Chinese students get Anti-Japan education of all subjects.
They sing songs of fighting with Japanese in the musical textbook.
A story that child fights with Japanese appears in the textbook of Chinese language.

This is typical Japanese propaganda and branwashing. I heard so many Japanese people telling me the same, and none of them have ever seen a Chinese textbook. How do you explain, for example, that among the Chinese people interviewed by the BBC this 21-year old Chinese girl from Shanghai did not know about the Nanjing Massacre until reading about it in the newspaper recently ? How do you explain that most of the other people interviewed do not hate Japanese people ? How do you explain that many still buys Japanese products ?

The fact that Chinese cruelly killed Japanese women and children is never written.
ツ催鞘?愿ャナス窶毒陳鞘?堙??堋ゥ窶堙仰。

What happened in Jinan, except that the Chinese Communist killed about 75,000 Chinese Nationalits in 1948 ? I could only find this in referrence to Japanese in Jinan (source) :

The farther advance of the National Revolutionary Army to Beijing was blocked as it entered Jinan, Shandong, by 5,000 Japanese troops, sent to protect residents there. After conflict (May 3–11) with the Japanese forces in Jinan, Jiang's army withdrew and moved directly on Beijing. The Japanese troops withdrew from Jinan in May 1929, as a vigorous Chinese boycott (1928–29) protested Japanese intrusions.

No mention of massacre of Japanese civilians by the Chinese. Anyway, what would Japanese women and children do in a Chinese city if their country had not invaded China in the first place ?

Korean history textbook is a fantasy.
Korean President and Korean say that our history has 5000 years. But 3000 years is a myth made in 12 century.

NOt quite sure the Japanese eductaion system is better. I heard a few Japanese tell me that Japan had a 3000 years history, and you seem to say that it is 2000 years. However, writing didn't come to Japan until the 6th century AD, so Japan has only about 1500 years history. Before it is prehistory or myths.
 
to Maciamo

Maciamo窶堋ウ窶堙ア窶堙債、
窶堙?窶堋、ツ渉ュ窶堋オナ陳ェ窶ケ窶「窶堙俄?氾ーナスj窶堙ー窶「テ冷?ケツュ窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙吮?堋、窶堋ェ窶堙ヲ窶堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲツ。
ニ但ニ辰ニ談窶堙娯?堙吮?堋、窶堙?窶愬。窶堋ヲ窶堙??堙仰。
🙂
 
miles7tp said:
Maciamo窶堋ウ窶堙ア窶堙債、
窶堙?窶堋、ツ渉ュ窶堋オナ陳ェ窶ケ窶「窶堙俄?氾ーナスj窶堙ー窶「テ冷?ケツュ窶堋オ窶堋ス窶堙吮?堋、窶堋ェ窶堙ヲ窶堋「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲツ。

Why is that ? If it's about Jinan, why don't you give me links from reliable sources that support your affirmation ?
 
Ji Nan massacre and National Humiliation Memorial Day

"Solid" evidence from a Anti-Beijing website relates to JiNan Massacre


At Jinan, Japanese army, which landed in coastal Qingdao in the summer of 1927 and evacuated in five batches after protests by Peking government, would stage a comeback on April 27th 1928. Back in July [June 27th to July 7th per LDF] 1927, Japanese Prime Minister Tanaka convened an "Orient Meeting" in Tokyo. In Aug, Japanese consuls convened a Dalian Meeting inside China. On April 27th 1928, about 5000 Japanese from 2nd division-conglomerate landed in Qingdao. 400 Japanese were sent southward to Jiao-Ji Railway in Shandong Prov from Tianjin's Japanese concession territory. Zhang Zongchang secretly sold out interests in Qingdao and on Jiao-Ji Railway to Japanese for help in fending off the Northern Expedition forces. (Japanese Prime Minister Tanaka, who coersed Manchurian Warlord Zhang Zuolin with construction of Jilin-Heilongjiang railway and later blasted Zhang Zuolin to death on June 4th 1928, would resign in July 1928 under the pressure of Japanese emperor.)

In face of KMT Second Northern Expedition, on May 2nd, i.e., the second day after Jinan fell into revolutionary army, Japanese had taken up positions at Japanese consulate, Japanese school, Jinan Hospital, and Japanese-controlled "Jinan Daily" newspaper office. Japanese army set up wires and checkpoints throughout commercial districts of the city and shot dead any Chinese who approached them. Xu Zhen stated that on May 1st and 3rd, Heh Yaozu's 40th Corps had conflicts with Japanese army. Chiang Kai-shek convened a meeting in Jinan for sake of trying to avoid confrontations with Japanese. Hu Zongnan refused to take up the task of garrison for Jinan.

On May 3rd, Japanese refused to let go negotiators sent by the nationalist government and demanded that Nationalist Army retreat 20 kilometers away from Jinan city. At 9:37 am, Japanese attacked Chinese barracks. Fighting ensued for whole day. At night, Japanese army intruded into the office of KMT negotiators, bound the hands of all personnel, and executed them. Japanese soldiers broke the leg of KMT commissioner Cai Gongshi, hit off his teeth, cut the tongue, and shot him. Hu Qiuyuan mentioned that foreign minister Huang Fo [? Huang Fu] was arrested by Japanese. Two regiments, 7th regiment of 3rd division and the first regiment, were disarmed by Japanese while under Chiang Kai-shek's order of "no fighting back". On May 4th, Japanese planes bombed the headquarter of the revolutionary army. When 40th Corps refused ceasefire order and fought the Japanese, Chiang Kai-shek ordered that Hu Zongnan go to the 40th Corps for stopping the war with Japanese. On May 5th, Chiang Kai-shek, leaving an order that Li Yannian's regiment stayed in Jinan city for two days, secretly ordered that nationalist army crossed the Yellow River for the north. Hu Qiuyuan stated that Chiang Kai-shek relocated his HQ to Dangjiazhuang on May 6th and that Japanese Kwantung army came over around May 7th to surround Jinan city.

Japanese, learning that nationalist army had crossed the river, waged a war against Li Yannian's regiment in an outrage. Li Yannian's regiment fought Japanese till 9th. On May 11th, while on their way of retreat, Li Yannian's regiment was attacked by Japanese without regard for a ceasefire, and about 500 soldiers broke through the siege. Japanese army consequently launched a massacre at Jinan city, shooting dead 200 wounded KMT soliders at a hospital and killing over 2000 civilians. Unofficial account stated that as many as 101,062 soldiers and civilians were killed and wounded during "Jinan Bloody Incident". Nationalist Government later decreed that May 3rd be designated the "National Humiliation Memorial Day".

Chiang Kai-shek blamed Jinan Incident on Heh Yaozu, and revoked Heh Yaozu's post of garrison commander for Nanking as well as commander-in-chief of 3rd group army. After Tanaka resigned in July 1928 over the June 4th death of Zhang Zuolin, Chiang Kai-shek dispatched Wang Zhengting to goodwill negotiations with the old prime minister Biyuan Xichonglang. By March 28th 1929, Japanese foreign minister acknowledged 'Jinan Incident' as a misfortune and agreed to withdraw the troops from Shandong within two months. (Wang Zhengting would also be responsible for terminating Belgian settlment in Tianjin on Aug 31st 1929 and British lease of Weihaiwei on Oct 1st 1930.)


Pictures of JiNan Massacre from another source:http://www.jndaxxw.gov.cn/jinanjiuying/jinancanan/sa4.asp
Please put 济窶愿ャナスSヒ?Ъ/I] into your google search engine instead of 济窶愿ャナス窶毒陳充/I]

P.S. It may be a good source to concern about Beijing's Human Rights record.
 
I correct a sentence I wrote before.

I correct a sentence I wrote before.
I wrote : Korean President and Korean say that our(Korean) history has 5000 years. But 3000 years is a myth made in 12 century.
I should have used "their", not "our".
Yes, I am poor at English.
Sorry !

Korean President, Korean people and Korean history textbook claim that Korean history has 5000 years. But 3000 years out of 5000 years is a Korean myth made in 12 century.
:sorry:
 
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