Why do Japanese people hate Asians so much??

[mecharmor23]

How come Japanese people during and before WWII hate Asians so much? Even more to the point where they continue to deny it is bad. Even going as far as to claiming that it is a holy war to purge "evil", denying attrocities and feeling all good and proud about the whole event.

Even the Germans felt shame from their mistakes, but Japanese people just hate Asians soooo much as to rewrite history......

WHY is that hatred for everyone in the world so strong?????

 

[Uncle Frank]

Try Using The Search Button !!!!

This topic has been beat to death many times before. If you go back over the old posts you will find many interesting answers to your questions!! Please take the time to read them, some may go back a year in time but it will be worth your while to study the old replys! Enjoy!!

Frank

 

[senseiman]

Not to get into this too deeply or defend Japan's actions, but their propoganda always sold the war effort as an attempt to 'save' their asian brothers from the bonds of western imperialism. It was the west against whom Japan (at least publicly)was focusing its 'hate', not other Asians.

Of course the reality of their war to 'save' Asia was massive atrocities commited mostly against other Asians, so it was all just bullshit. But I don't think Japanese society in general was infected with anywhere near the amount of racist contempt for Chinese as, say, German society was with its views against Jews and other minorities.

 

[mecharmor23]

Yeah, but some Japanese on other boards went as far as saying that they took pleasure in the attrocities, proud of what they did and still proud. I forgot the address but I don't know if all Japanese people here or you know of think like this. They seem more stubborn than the Nazi's.... They make Hitler more of a coward everyday... Japanese people don't know when to quit...... Will Japan strike again? even if the cost is the entire planet?? On the other hand, from a Japanese point of view, life is something you can throw into the garbage anytime........... right???? Not to offend the victims of the western holocaust but the pacific holocaust seem to be much worst when combined with such hatred..... because we non-japanese people seem to have something that they hate us for even after the war..........

 

[senseiman]

No matter what Japanese on other boards may say, the fact is that most Japanese aren't racist and do not hate other Asians.

It is true that Japan hasn't come to terms with its war guilt as well as Germany has. Right wing Politicians like Ishihara are true pieces of racist scum whose views on ethnicity are absolutely appalling. But I don't think its at all fair to ascribe minority views like his to the entire Japanese nation.

 

[bossel]

[...]Japan hasn't come to terms with its war guilt as well as Germany has. Right wing Politicians like Ishihara are true pieces of racist scum whose views on ethnicity are absolutely appalling.[...]

Ah well, even in Germany you will find politicians like that. But they have to be careful with their words since incitement of racism is a criminal offence.

some Japanese on other boards went as far as saying that they took pleasure in the attrocities [...] Will Japan strike again?

Mind you, this is the internet. How can you be sure that they were Japanese? I noticed on another forum that some people just pose as someone they want to look bad, only trying to stir up feelings.
Japan at the moment has absolutely no military capability to strike again, even if they wanted to (which I doubt).

 

[Mandylion]

On the other hand, from a Japanese point of view, life is something you can throw into the garbage anytime........... right????

I couldn't disagree more. You cannot judge modern Japanese society on what happened in WWII - I assume you are talking mainly about the Kamikaze attacks? If you try and put yourself in their shoes, is it really that hard to understand? There is much, much more to this than what I have said, but I'm going to leave it at that for now.

I agree that Japan should apologize. The sooner the better. But trying to open constructive discussions with questions like why do Japanese people hate so much polarizes the issue instantly and shuts down dialogue. Something like why does Japan seem so slow in coming to terms with the events of WWII limits emotional knee-jerking and allows for a much more constructive discussion. Thank you for posting, but might I suggest fewer generalizations in the future?

Don't take Japans sending troops to Iraq as a move towards renewed expansionism. This is a political move and one I think is aimed at earning Japan a seat on the UN Security Council (not that that will happen anytime soon for a number of reasons). Japanese people do not protest very often, but large numbers came out when the government announced the recent changes. This might seem like a very small act when placed against public demonstrations in the West, but trust me, this was a big deal in Japan. The vast, vast majority of Japanese people I know are very proud of their pacifist constitution and of keeping out of conflicts. Japanese politicians are under a lot of pressure from the international community to carry a share of the risk involved in international conflicts.

Please be very careful when forming an opinion on Japan based on WWII. As others have noted, most of the things you seem to be reading on the internet come for extremists or even more questionable sources.

I encourage you to look at some of the online English language newspapers produced in Japan (like Japan Times, Asahi, Yomiuri etc.). What gets picked up by the news wires about foreign countries is often the most sensational or shocking for their audience - it sells the papers so it gets printed. This gives a very skewed preception of reality.

 

[mecharmor23]

Something else I find suprising is that I find it really hard to believe that games like Final Fantasy and animes like Macross are made in Japan by Japanese people. . All races in their storyboards (elves, dwarves, humans etc) are able to prosper together at the end of the game and the start of the game. That is the only reason I came to this board is because that I thought someone would denounce that Final Fantasy was not designed by Japanese. I have yet to play a Japanese RPG where the Emperor is the all evil villian at least in the games released in the 90's. That whole star wars theme is so overused that they don't use it anymore.
Another reason that I didn't believe that Final Fantasy originated in Japan is because I thought that they lack the genetic feature to feel for other "species". But maybe I am wrong. Let me put it this way, If WWII Japan was the only thing that you studied on, can you really believe that they could make games and anime with such a strong pacifist theme?? If you haven't played Final Fantasy series 1-7 then play it and you will see. In an Anime called Macross the side with the bigger gun doesn't mean the winning side, I won't spoil if you haven't watched it. I thought that they have a phobia of love and peace, but maybe I am wrong?? Now how does it feel like to have that kinda phobia anyway??????????? Understand that this whole reply is filled with "I thought"....... I studied WWII pacific after being a fan of all their food and entertainment (especially games and anime), and after studying WWII pacific I was left feeling: "Games, Anime and Novels with such a strong theme in pacifism, love and promotion of multi special cultures is actually made by a mas genocidal nation that detests other cultures?"... wow...... I almost thought it is out of character when many people claim that games,anime and novels is part of their culture.... Just suprising........ no offence to anyone btw.. I just find it hard that they can right love stories involving multi races like a pro. I recommend playing Tales of Phantasia for the SNES, SEIKEN DENSETSU 3, and Final Fantasy 7. What do you think???

 

[Uncle Frank]

Boy, You Do A Lot Of Deep Thinking!!

Hang around the Forum for a while and you will see there are some nice people for you to be friends with. A real sign of inteligence is the ability to change you mind about things.Many times we find things we believed so strongly in were not the truth. Talking to people from Japan and from all over the world is a great chance to learn new things. Some people who come here are so filled with hate, they don't want to see anything good. You sound like a person who will at least listen to other people's ideas. Don't give up on us and hang around a while, we might grow on you and you may even come to call some of us "Friend" someday!

Frank

 

[mecharmor23]

Is it true that Chinese, Korean and Japanese people all have Turkish decent?? Some guy just posted something about them being together..... We were hating the same people all along?? We were actually the same???? If that is the case then we have been fighting for 100+ years for nothing?? Ancient Turkish conquests are rarely mentioned and they fromt he pictures I found it seems quite believable we all have common genetic structure.....

 

[Mandylion]

Let me put it this way, If WWII Japan was the only thing that you studied on, can you really believe that they could make games and anime with such a strong pacifist theme??

Lucky for all of us there is much more to Japan than just WWII. I think you have found a little bit of that in the games and anime. I hope you will take the time to look and study a bit further into Japanese society, culture, and history.

Part of the paradox of being human is that we have such power to destroy, and yet such a capacity to create. We can all change if we remain open to new ideas about life and living. I hope you will continue to keep an open and inquisitive mind about Japan.

 

[mad pierrot]

Great Post, Frank. You should work for the U.N.

 

[Eternal Wind]

Maybe frank IS one of the councilors in U.N

 

[kinjo]

a mas genocidal nation that detests other cultures?"

I'm far from having any sort of expert opinion... but when you consider their feelings in the early twentieth century... you have to consider what laid the road for those feelings to grow.

Japan was forced open by the US military in the mid 19th century and instantly placed on this sort of international house arrest. Exploitation began immediately. A country that was used to staying away from foreign nations, just wanted to be left alone... are suddenly working for an uneven trade agreement with another country.

Japans history of detesting (us Americans at least) is far from unfounded.

 

[mecharmor23]

Because of the way the Japan government works, all claims of them being innocent victims have to be researched throughly from multiple unbiased, unpatriotic, multinational and multi sources. Sources, directly from Japan can only be trusted so much.

ProteanSensei, what sources did you use to find that info? Due to massive government conspiracies in Japan, many Japan and biased pro Japanese authors lie about their history, at least that is what I was told and from the facts presented from the victims of the pacific holocaust. I don't mean say that you are lying or not but because of the way Japan hides their sins, you don't know if everything is true. And the whole thing about uneven trade agreement forced by the US sounds very similar to the propaganda content that was used to justify mass murder of foreign people.

Do sources from different countries such as USA,England,France etc all tell the same??
It is really hard nowadays to believe the Japanese 100% when it comes to history and there is no point in going to Japan and talking about it because the government hid the truth from everybody. Some good deeds maybe true and some false. That is why it is really hard for me to believe.

Did countries like USA, England, France, etc actually admitted that they exploited the Japanese and then it lead to WWII?? My goal here is trying to get facts from people on the neutral side and people who are non-patriotic so that information does not become biased. I know I may sound hard on everyone about the truth but it would be much easier if the Japanese didn't rewrite their entire history.

It is also hard for the historian because he would not know if it is the truth or not. At some point, certain facts have to be told from a Japanese point of view in order for history to be complete, but they seem to hesitate. Not to sound harsh but I find that most historians are wasting there time if they go to Japan because the Japanese will never tell the truth,they were never told the truth by their ancestors anyway, however, the sights, products and services are sure worth it. Hmm.. on second thought, no one trip to Japan is ever a waste of time regardless of what you are there because of the entertainment hehehe.........

Watch these movies: X-Files and Soylent Green. and you will have a good idea of government conspiraces.

Again, no offence, it is just that I don't really like being lied too, I am not calling anyone here a liar but I just question the credibility of the sources whenever the Japanese claim that they did something good or being victims.
It would just be so much easier if the Japan Government did not rewrite history.

 

[kirei_na_me]

Please pardon me for asking this, but I'm just curious. Are you Chinese, mecharmor23?

 

[Zero-sen]

Just a few points i've picked up from this thread thus far which i'd like to comment on, this may take a while, so here goes

"FROM A JAPANESE POINT OF VIEW LIFE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN THROW AWAY ANYTIME..........RIGHT????"
I couldn't disagree more. If you study Japanese history they have always placed great emphasis on life. The proper version of Bushido teaches us that one should live to die. This means that basically you should live your life to the best of your ability and do what you can to help your fellow man. However being bound by the code also meant that if necessary and if ordered to do so lay down your life. I think someone mentioned earlier the kamikaze. Bear in mind that most of the pilots in the Nihon Kaigun (naval airforce) and indeed the Nihon Rikugun (army airforce) had an average age of 20 - 23 some even younger, had grown up immediately after the Meiji restoration and the ascension of Hirohito. During this time the Japanese military virtually ruled the country instilling in the populace a patriotic fervour verging on religious zealousness. Now who's the evil one here?? the child who grows up knowing militarism as the norm because so called "leaders" have programmed the populace through propaganda, or the person programmed from birth to accept thisd as the norm?? my money's ont the ******* who's decided kids should be raised, sorry programmed, to respect the emperror, the military, the family and regard everybody else as scum.

"The pacific holocaust seem to be much worse when combined with such hatred"
Again i don't agree, genocide is genocide. It's mass murder with no excuse to explain it away, here in my opinion the Nazi's and the Japanese are on a level pegging in the disgust stakes. nothing can condone what both nations did to the people and nations under heel during the war, The germans sacked and raped thier way through russia and more Precisely Leningrad, the japanese, Nanking and the rest of asia. So again comparing Nazi germany with WW2 Japan is pointless, they're both equally as guilty.

"Another reason that I didn't believe that Final Fantasy originated in Japan is because I thought that they lack the genetic feature to feel for other "species". But maybe I am wrong. Let me put it this way, If WWII Japan was the only thing that you studied on, can you really believe that they could make games and anime with such a strong pacifist theme??"
Genetically incapable of feeling?? Now who's being racist?? how much time have you spend around Japanese people??This statement alone made me sit up and think WHA???!?! Next to the Chinese the Japanese are the warmest friendliest people you'll meet! After world war2 the allies were determined to make sure none of the atrocities committed in the pacific happened ever again. the Japanese navy wasrestricted in size as was the army and navy. The irony here is the Navy was re-equipped with ex us equipement!!! the constitution was laid down to govourn the nation and the same happened in germany with the Berlin wall. Japan was transformed by the US into the nation she is today. So the constitution was worth having. Japan going to Iraq is hardly the prelude to another pacific war.

"Do sources from different countries such as USA,England,France etc all tell the same??"
The answer to this would be no, they don't. different countries different people, different views. Both of my grandfathers fought in both theatres, My mum's dad in ETO and my dad's daad in PTO. Both have some real horror stories to tell even though both were pilots. they still saw their fair share of ****. Is it really so hard to believe that there were no "good souls" in the armed forces of both of these nations? Saburo sakai is one who sticks out in my mind for Japan. My grandfather also once told me of witnessing a Waffen SS sergeant executed on the spot by his CO for giving a wounded American POW his canteen to drink. Anyone who's studied WW2 in europe will know the Waffen SS were not the sort of guys to come knocking to help granny go shopping. My Grandfather fought the Waffen SS at normandy and had some Hairaising stories to tell. In fact the first time my other grandfather found out i was to marry a Japanese he was disgusted with me and we fell out for months. I just dropped in on him one day with my fiance accompanying me and he was made speak with her. Eventually he came to knew her as the amazing woman she is. If a hardened vet can change his opinion even a little, then why are we still arguing over this? i agree people do have opinions and are entitled to them. This is just mine.

"Hmm.. on second though, no one trip is ever a waste of time regardless of what you are there for because of the entertainment hehehe........" To what exactly are you referring here?? if you mean the women, now who's exploiting who?? Also someone stated earlier Jaopan was forced to open her ports by Commodore Perry. So coorrect me if i'm wrong but if someone used MILITARY force to prove a point and gain entry to your country would that put you on the defensive?? wouldn't you want to begin rearming and make yourself a "world player" too?? i Would.

I am not in anyway saying Japan was right in her actions during the war infact she was downfright wrong and the tales of pow's are quite harrowing. I personally think Japan should start living up to what happened and should publicly appologise for her actions and issue reparations to the victims of her aggressive and expansionist policies during the war. I also think the emperor should have stood trial along with his commanders but, common sense had to prevail and he didn't to make re-building easier. Anothe rpost on here also said that we as humans, have to capacity to destroy but so much more, we can bulid create. We (hopefully) learn from our mistakes and grow from them but unfortunately not always. Forming an opinion of a nation because of WW2 and conputer games too for that matter is ridiculous. One set of history books wil be roughly similar in context to another. History is, as they say, written by the victor. I'm sorry if some of what i've written offends but hey, it's just my point of view. As i say Japan has done some disgusting things in her past as has every other nation on this rock we call home, Yeah she also harbours some major idiots with some pretty lame racist views but who doesn't?? i grew up in ireland so i know what it's like to listen day in day out to some jerk mouthing off about religion, creed, whatever they decide has offended them that week!! Again sorry to upset if i have.
Thanks for reading. :sorry:

 

[Golgo_13]

What about the atrocities Genghis Khan and the Mongols committed in invading China and pillaging Peking?

What about the atrocities China has commited in invading and annexing Tibet?

By the way, has China ever given Tibet back its freedom and independence?

I think Japan has relinquished all the territories it once held.

 

[mecharmor23]

About your question Kirei Na Me, yes I am Chinese. I am born and raised way after the war. In high school I have learned about their attrocities. I have studied in both Canada and the USA for 90% of my life. It is because of constant stories from classmates during history class that got me into this site and wondering why I am still hated. I don't hate them but I want to get the truth as to why the Japanese hates me. I wish I can have a choice as to who and where I am born to but unfortunatley we have to face the facts of life that we can't choose that. But can they face that fact? So I came here to find out if they still hold the grudge against chinese people.

 

[Mandylion]

Please watch your sweeping generalizations. Please take a little time to reread your posts before sending them. The way you tell it, all Japanese people hate China and you seem to think any Japanese person you meet holds some kind of grudge against you. Don't you think this is a bit extreme? - Like many posters have been saying again and again, this situation is complex. Please do not sell Japan or yourself short.

We can all see you are a serious student on this issue who is working towards the truth. As you can see, lots of people here would like to work with you.

 

[Uncle Frank]

America Hid Things From It's History Books..

also. I think all countries and book printers & writers just want the positive things to be remembered! When I was young, I saw very little about slavery and treatment on African slaves. I never saw anything bad about how we treated the Native Americans. I never saw about how we locked up the Japanese in internment camps during WW2.
Until I got in college, I never heard anything bad that America did!! Now we go the other way and dig up new dirt every day about bad things America did in the past.
I think most people don't want to think about evil that took place in the past because they did not do it and don't feel responsible for what relatives did. Most of us just want everything to be peaceful for the future! I think we all need to be aware of our past, but not dwell on what can't be changed! Apologise if need be, but move on!

Frank

 

[Golgo_13]

also. I think all countries and book printers & writers just want the positive things to be remembered! When I was young, I saw very little about slavery and treatment on African slaves. I never saw anything bad about how we treated the Native Americans. I never saw about how we locked up the Japanese in internment camps during WW2.
Until I got in college, I never heard anything bad that America did!! Now we go the other way and dig up new dirt every day about bad things America did in the past.
I think most people don't want to think about evil that took place in the past because they did not do it and don't feel responsible for what relatives did. Most of us just want everything to be peaceful for the future! I think we all need to be aware of our past, but not dwell on what can't be changed! Apologise if need be, but move on!

Frank

Well said, Howaito san!

 

[Zero-sen]

Please watch your sweeping generalizations. Please take a little time to reread your posts before sending them. The way you tell it, all Japanese people hate China and you seem to think any Japanese person you meet holds some kind of grudge against you.

Couldn't agree more. You're verging on making yourself sound racist.

 

[kinjo]

ProteanSensei, what sources did you use to find that info? Due to massive government conspiracies in Japan, many Japan and biased pro Japanese authors lie about their history, at least that is what I was told and from the facts presented from the victims of the pacific holocaust. I don't mean say that you are lying or not but because of the way Japan hides their sins, you don't know if everything is true. And the whole thing about uneven trade agreement forced by the US sounds very similar to the propaganda content that was used to justify mass murder of foreign people.

My goal here is trying to get facts from people on the neutral side and people who are non-patriotic so that information does not become biased. I know I may sound hard on everyone about the truth but it would be much easier if the Japanese didn't rewrite their entire history.

I've never been to Japan, I've started learning about Japan recently. These things are well known facts. If you want FACTS from good source and wont open your ears to people on here for fear of dilution... then go get a history book. Libraries are everywhere. I got my information from US history class and plenty of books I have on *Other things* such as Physics and Art that mention it in passing. If your goal here is to get facts from a "netural side" ie: a side that will not prefer to show Japan in a good light for their own needs: Then why are you asking here.... only to turn around and question sources based on what sounds right to you without checking their facts.

It IS a fact, a fact that shaped the fate of many nations. And as far as the Japanese rewriting their history.... I beleive the US had something to do with that. It has a lot to do with the controls that were imposed by the US and their allies (mainly: The US) after WWII.

 

[Golgo_13]

I'm Japanese, and I only have respect for the Chinese, for without China's heavy influence on ancient Japan, today's Japanese culture would not exist.

I have studied Chinese Chi Kung and a martial art called Yi Chuan since 1987. My master in Yi Chuan (a native of Shanghai) always told me how he liked the Japanese compared to Americans because "Japanese are honest people," and marveled at the beauty of Japanese calligraphy which is completely different in form and spirit than Chinese calligraphy.

After about a year of study, my master formally admitted me as his formal "Chinese" student. We had a small ceremony with lit incense and we both sat on our knees and bowed down to the photo of Grandmaster Wang Ziang Shai, the founder of Yi Chuan.

My master told me that during the 1940s in China, a Japanese Judo and Kendo expert came to challenge grandmaster Wang and was soundly defeated. The Japanese, named Kenji Sawai, got down on the ground and bowed to Wang and begged to be accepted as his student. Wang was impressed by the Japanese fighter's humility and did accept him, even though at the time the Japanese were enemies of China. Sawai later went back to Japan to spread the art of YiChuan there.

There are many heartwarming stories of today's Japanese' acts of good will toward China. Japanese scientists have gone to China to teach agricultural techniques to grow a better strain of rice, or to re-forest areas threatened by desert conditions. I saw a show about a Japanese family who had live in Manchuria during wartime and were nearly killed by Chinese, only to be saved by a Chinese military officer. This Japanese family went back to China to track down that officer to thank him. They got on Chinese national TV to appeal to the masses to help them look for him. Some of the Chinese viewers of that show were interviewed and expressed that they saw a different side of the Japanese whom they had assumed were savage people. Recently, a Chinese female softball player was given Japanese citizenship in order to be allowed to play for the Japanese national Olympic team, which has a better chance of winning a medal than the Chinese team. I could go on and on, but it's all meaningless if you're convinced that it's propaganda.

If anyone has a bitter attitude toward Japan or the Japanese, do yourself a favor and go to a forum where there are only people like yourself.