Not only in Japan, but in Europe too. Try managing it when you're 7 months pregnant! I was in France, around Versailles, when I needed to go so bad. Of course, the only thing they had was a hole in the ground. I was lucky I didn't take off rolling...
It's times like those when I wish I could be a man. All I would need is good aim...and not even that!
haha...true enough but on the other higher end of the toilets... hmm... they are pretty quirky too right? Toilet seats that can be warmed... those that can 'sing' to mask out any embarassing sounds that you make in the toilet.... bins that open automatically on sensing your hand....
Seeing as we're on the subject of toilets. Another weird and very disturbing thing is :
You're standing at a urinal trying to take a pee in peace. In walks a little old lady who proceeds to clean the urinal next to you. SCARY!
That's right! Japan are so bent on the sexist rule that women clean everything that even the men's toilets are cleaned by them. I know for a fact that in my own country this would never been accepted, infact the old lady could file lawsuit after lawsuit on indecent exposure. If an old lady walks in when I'm doing my business I just walk out now. I've placed complaints with the managers at a mall called "saty" and super market called "jusco" but nothing ever came of them ( yea .. like they give a damn about a FORIENER'S complaints )
oh my... i'm sure that can be quite 'tramatizing' when the old lady creeps up from behind!
Hmm... in Singapore, we do usually have old women cleaning men's toilets but they have the basic courteousy to knock and call out loudly before they enter.
There was a small bar in Fukuoka called "The Pit Inn " that was so small it had a uni-sex bathroom. We would be standing at the urinal while the girls tee-hee-ed on their way into the stall next to the urinal.
> I've placed complaints with the managers at a mall called "saty" and super market called "jusco"
> but nothing ever came of them ( yea .. like they give a damn about a FORIENER'S complaints )
What did you want them to do? I don't understand why you would complain about something like this. It's like complaining because somebody says "irrasshaimase" when you walk into a shop. That's just the way it is. If you don't like it then it's up to you to deal with it. Ignore the cleaning ladies or use a stall every time you think there's a danger of one coming in.
Personally I prefer being able to use the restroom while it's being cleaned rather than encountering a closed restroom and having to find another one as often occurs in the U.S. when a restroom's being cleaned.
> Something called "meat salad." It is served in our luch room.
> Think about it... counterproductive don't you think?
Im sorry but I don't find it pleasant to have a female cleaning the urinal next to me. It's un-nerving and embarrasing. To top this ; The only reason the cleaners are female is because japan says they should be. Not because it's thier choice. Really .. It's unfair on both parties. Get males to clean the mens toilets and females to clean the ladies toilets. That was the complaint I put forward after my wife tried to stop me. You cannot possibly say it's "right" for it to stay the way it is now.
Edit : Toilet = Toilet. They are NOT places that you go to rest in. Nor are they places in which you bathe. Stop trying to pass them off like that.
If they did stop Grandma from cleaning the mens toilet she'd probably be very upset - it's not a nice job but with the economy the way it is she's probably grateful to have a job. I've seen Grandma's out here doing road construction!
It probably would be a good idea to have a talk with Granny before trying to kick her out of a job!
My point is not the "grandma's" comfort. It's people like you or I , you know ... customers... Human beings who are not programmed to accept women as cleaners. I'm sure the customer matters more than the employee.
If she's like most of the older Japanese women I have come to know, she could care less if she was cleaning a men's bathroom. It's not that the evil men are forcing her to clean them. She sees it as doing her job. I mean, the older Japanese ladies I know would come in and clean because they want it to be clean, and to them, a man couldn't clean it as nearly as good as they could.
I have known Japanese women who wouldn't even let their husbands in the kitchen to attempt to cook because they thought they would "mess something up" or because "they're place isn't in the kitchen". Also, those same ones don't want their husbands to help with the kids because they say they wouldn't take care of them like they would and they are also the ones managing all of the money that their husbands bring in to the point that the husband has to ask for their own money in order to buy something. Not to mention the women that I know who've handed their husbands money to go get "satisfied" somewhere else...
I'd say the women pretty much know what they're doing. I don't think they're quite as oppressed as some of us are led to believe.