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kohlrak
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After a few day break (that i should never have taken) i once again have problems with だ. The problem with だ is that it's not documented well or at all... I've been handed a site, and i don't know what all it covers, and at this point i can see だ is covered sparingly... Other than that it's a great site, and i trust it. I use google to try to look for this information and i either get the grammar page of this site (only copied and pasted on theirs), Tae Kim's page (only changed a little, and i really don't trust him at all), some anime fan site with a handful of expressions and no grammar, or a page that supposedly covers the whole grammar, but is only 1 page (and that is clearly a bad type of site to go by). Let's try to stay on topic, and please (for the love of God) don't tell me how to learn the language, for this is the only way i can do it. I've heard how you all want me to learn the language enough times already. This is the only way i can learn the language, and this will have to do. As long as i have co-operation, my plan will work.
The Table
Yes, i know the table is the same one on this site (only it's alot easier to read because it's divided). I've been spending days using other resources (including this wonderful site) to try to make this table make sense... First issue, is the "respect" thing... Correct me on the information below if i have any of it wrong:
Informal - Used by kids or with friends or some one younger than you. (Similar, but not the same as like "tu" in french.)
Polite - Used for strangers or for business meetings.
Respectful - Used for some one with a higher "rank" than you, such as a boss, teacher, or some one older than you.
Ok... Now, the even more complicated part... When it talks about continuative and imperfective, are those the particles or actual parts of the verb. For instance is it saying "[noun here]でじゃない" or "[noun here]じゃない" for negative non past?
Also, what is the difference between conditional and provisional? Also, the "te" thing... Is it a polite imperative(without kudasai), used for lists of actions, adverbs, and that's it? Also, from some of the examples from my book, it also could represent present, future, AND past? Also is it to show "completed action" without defining specifically a tense? And what is the attributive form's purpose?
I think if i can get all these answered I'll finally be on my way and things should clear up... I wish we had a word surgeon for Japanese... lol
The Table
Yes, i know the table is the same one on this site (only it's alot easier to read because it's divided). I've been spending days using other resources (including this wonderful site) to try to make this table make sense... First issue, is the "respect" thing... Correct me on the information below if i have any of it wrong:
Informal - Used by kids or with friends or some one younger than you. (Similar, but not the same as like "tu" in french.)
Polite - Used for strangers or for business meetings.
Respectful - Used for some one with a higher "rank" than you, such as a boss, teacher, or some one older than you.
Ok... Now, the even more complicated part... When it talks about continuative and imperfective, are those the particles or actual parts of the verb. For instance is it saying "[noun here]でじゃない" or "[noun here]じゃない" for negative non past?
Also, what is the difference between conditional and provisional? Also, the "te" thing... Is it a polite imperative(without kudasai), used for lists of actions, adverbs, and that's it? Also, from some of the examples from my book, it also could represent present, future, AND past? Also is it to show "completed action" without defining specifically a tense? And what is the attributive form's purpose?
I think if i can get all these answered I'll finally be on my way and things should clear up... I wish we had a word surgeon for Japanese... lol