What's new

some will swim into a lake or ocean far past the point of safety.

hirashin

Sempai
Donor
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
2,437
Reaction score
38
Dear native English speakers、
would the above sentence sound correct?

Hirashin
 

johnnyG

先輩
Joined
Dec 23, 2010
Messages
1,044
Reaction score
290
It sounds correct grammatically, but in terms of content, it seems that you're entering the realm of philosophy.

Like it's a reply a master might make to a question asked by an acolyte.
 

hirashin

Sempai
Donor
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
2,437
Reaction score
38
Thanks for the help, johnnyG.

I think it's not about philosophy. The original passage is like this:
Most swimmers know enough not to swim too far from the beach, but some will swim into a lake or ocean far past the point of safety.
 
 

johnnyG

先輩
Joined
Dec 23, 2010
Messages
1,044
Reaction score
290
Most swimmers know enough not to swim too far from the beach, but some will swim into a lake or ocean far past the point of safety.
That sounds fine.

Can I ask that when you post questions like this, please start with the original (like this), instead of abbreviating it?
 

hirashin

Sempai
Donor
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
2,437
Reaction score
38
I'm sorry, johnnyG. But your comment was interesting to me. You taught me that the sentence can have a figurative meaning.
 

joadbres

八方凡人
Joined
Sep 19, 2016
Messages
678
Reaction score
229
Yes, I agree with @johnnyG . You often provide short sentences without any surrounding context. It is difficult for us to evaluate if something sounds natural without knowing the context in which it is being used.

In this case, it is not clear to me why you would take a perfectly fine sentence (Most swimmers know...) and then strip out parts of it and ask us if it "sounds correct"? What does that accomplish?
 

hirashin

Sempai
Donor
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
2,437
Reaction score
38
I often ask about short sentences mainly because they are from grammar textbooks. Grammar textbooks often provide short sentences to explain the sentence structures.

But this particular case is not from a grammar book. The previous sentence sounds all right to me, so I only asked about the latter part. I was not sure whether you can say "swim into a lake or ocean".

Can you also say "some will swim beyond the point of safety in a lake or ocean"?

Hirashin
 

joadbres

八方凡人
Joined
Sep 19, 2016
Messages
678
Reaction score
229
The previous sentence sounds all right to me, so I only asked about the latter part.
Yes, but that part of the sentence is necessary for understanding the context. It explains who "some" are. You should always try to provide as much context as possible. Otherwise, we won't be able to answer as accurately.

I was not sure whether you can say "swim into a lake or ocean".
Then you should have provided the full sentence, and asked if that part sounds OK. (It does.)

Can you also say "some will swim beyond the point of safety in a lake or ocean"?
It is OK, but "into" sounds a little better in this particular case.
 

hirashin

Sempai
Donor
Joined
Apr 8, 2004
Messages
2,437
Reaction score
38
Thanks for the further help, joadbres.
You should always try to provide as much context as possible. Otherwise, we won't be able to answer as accurately.
Yes. I'll do that.
 

Habaek

Kouhai
Joined
Mar 27, 2018
Messages
51
Reaction score
9
it makes it sound stupid when you add "lake" "ocean"
 
Top