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[sino-japan war]Generation gap

mingo

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I just realized one interesting fact that may cause the conflicts on the topics of sino-japan war. That is the generation gap.

let's see.
During sino Japan war,

on the Japanese side:
most of japanese in china are soldiers, so they are all 18+ at that period. so most of them would be in their 90s, only a small portion of people can live that long. to the current Japanese youth generations, it's about the age of their great grandfather, which means they are very unlikely to be affected by the generations involved in sino-Japan war. that's why they tend to think, 60 yrs has been passed, why care so much.(also explained why some of the right-wing movement met less and less resistance from society as time pass).. while most of them may mention the tokyo bombing and nuclear bomb

on the chinese side:
on the chinese side, both adults and kids are influenced by the war, and the fear(and only fear, since they're young) of brutal Japanese has been with them in their early years. and they will be in their 60s, about the age of grandfather for the youth, so their influence is much greater on the youth... and of course. they want to remember the painful history..

that's the difference between invade and been invaded..just like the American kids have no idea about the Iraq war, while they may remember the 911, at the same time, the Iraqi kids are affected by the war, and we don't what will have when they grow up...😊
 

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indeed an interesting analogy, and it somehow even isn't that far fetched.
Both China in the 1930's and Iraq in the early 21st century were too weak to defend effectively against the invading forces (Japan in the 1930's and the USA of today).
Both invaders were using extensively cover-up tactics and propaganda to gain support from the public.
While most American kids and adults don't see much of the terrible situation in Iraq (just only what the news agencies show them), most Japanese citizens also weren't aware of what their troops were really doing in China, Korea etc.
But the civilian casualties in China was much higher than in Iraq. It was around 19 million from 1937-1945 and the difference is that massacres, gang rapes and torture cases were frequently founded in China and much less in Iraq where it was rather sporadically.
And when we think only the number of persons killed counts, that is wrong. Why so many Chinese are so angry at Japan is the attitude of the government to cover-up the war atrocities instead of facing it with condolences and the will to heal the wound of the former victim.
The other is what witnesses in China have saw with their own eyes. Many Japanese troops raping girls from the age of 8 to old grannies and often piercing and cutting their body parts just for fun =(
It is hard to imagine for every normal person, how so many soldiers could do such brutal and pervet things.
That's why national education must not be in the hands of radical military officers again, but in the hands of intellectuals and teachers who teach the children more about peace and respect instead of forcing them into war machines.

Although some might think that it only could happen in Japan or Germany that the majority supports coldblooded fascists, the bloodbath in Asia and Europe should be a reminder for every nation to be aware of such trends.
That's why it is a crime to distort history, because younger generations might miss the chance to avoid the same mistakes from the past.
 

pipokun

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That's why it is a crime to distort history, because younger generations might miss the chance to avoid the same mistakes from the past.
Can you say PRC has settled disputes or wars by peaceful means for 61yrs?
It may be yes in relation with Japan.
If not, what do you call them? Were they right mistakes with other neighboring countries?
 

MajideSaiaku

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What about the Chinese who remember the cultural revolution, or the surviving mainland Chinese who escaped to Taiwan, or the Tibetans as the PLA moved in to enforce a Chinese claim on their country?, or the villagers forced out of their homes to make way for developement?.

Everyone in China seems to have a grandparent with a sob-story, and not all of them are about the Japanese neither...

Something to considor.
 

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What about the Chinese who remember the cultural revolution, or the surviving mainland Chinese who escaped to Taiwan, or the Tibetans as the PLA moved in to enforce a Chinese claim on their country?, or the villagers forced out of their homes to make way for developement?.
Everyone in China seems to have a grandparent with a sob-story, and not all of them are about the Japanese neither...
Something to considor.
it's off-topic, just like not everything between sino-japan relation are about WWII. I do understand the FEAR of communism had caused you to concern about these, (maybe due to wester media/propoganda?). however, to the mainland chinese, less fear is concerned at the time, so most of them don't really care about escaping chinese (or smuggler? depends on your opinion too) and so on..
same to the sino-japan relation, Japanese side don't have too much(if any) FEAR over what the troops done in china, that's why they are less concerned
 

MajideSaiaku

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To summarize Mingo, your post was padded out nothing?.

My point was merely that everyone in China probably has a grandparent with a sob-story, and not all of those stories were the consiquences of Japanese acts.

As for the Chinese governments actions, thats another topic, their actions are free to the world to speak for themselves, merely stating everyone in China can have a grudge and it really isnt all because of the Japanese.

Most Chinese problems seem home-grown to me.
 
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