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dhmkhkk

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Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum -so, hi everyone! - and struggling to learn japanese on my own. :)
There is one song which I really like and I'm trying to translate it, but my grammar is probably not at a level yet where I can do so. There is one sentence which I cannot really figure out:

Kimi ja nai warui no wa jibun no hageshisa wo
Kakusenai boku no hou sa

It's not you, it's my fault - and then what is hageshisa? and what is "hou sa"? And is it "jibun no hageshisa" as in "my something"?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

P.S: kana is ok, I can't read too many kanji though :D
 

Mike Cash

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~さ is a suffix which turns an adjective into a noun.

たかい high
たかさ height

ふかい deep
ふかさ depth

わかい young
わかさ youth

You need to rearrange the format:

Kimi ja nai
{warui no wa} #< {{jibun no hageshisa} wo kakusenai} boku> no hou# sa

There's too much going on there grammatically to just explain all of it to you. What parts do you recognize/understand and what parts do you not recognize/understand?
 

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In addition;
The core of the second sentence is わるいのはぼくのほうさ.
わるいのは is the subject of the sentence.
じぶんのはげしさをかくせない modifies ぼく.
ほう means "side".
さ at the end of the sentence is a sentence final particle expressing the speaker's assertion, mostly used by male.
 

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~さ is a suffix which turns an adjective into a noun.

たかい high
たかさ height

ふかい deep
ふかさ depth

わかい young
わかさ youth

You need to rearrange the format:

Kimi ja nai
{warui no wa} #< {{jibun no hageshisa} wo kakusenai} boku> no hou# sa

There's too much going on there grammatically to just explain all of it to you. What parts do you recognize/understand and what parts do you not recognize/understand?
Hi Mike,

yeah I guess there ist too much I don't understand here.
1. Kimi ja nai - it's not you, it's clear.
2. warui no wa - bad... not sure how "no wa" is actually used, but I think it makes a noun of ouf warui?
3. jibun no hageshisa - my something?? I haven't found the word in the dictionary but after your explanation i think it means violence?
4. jibun no hageshisa wo kakusenai - cannot hide my violence
5. {{jibun no hageshisa} wo kakusenai} boku - ehm I am a bit confused about this one. Maybe it's "boku wa jibun no hageshisa wo kakusenai"? But in reverse order (literary, poetically)
6. no hou sa - no idea how it is connected to the rest of the sentence.
 

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(3) hageshii is the adjective. The -sa form turns it into a verb as Mike said.
It could mean violence, or other things like intensity, ferocity, severity.
I don't know the song but I doubt violence would be the best translation.
(5) Yes, basically. Note this is correct grammar. Instead of prepositional phrases, you can put an entire phrase ahead of a noun to modify it.
I, who can't hide my temper.
(6) boku no is "my." So it becomes my hou. Or my way, side, or part.
Something like:
It's my fault, I who can't hide my temper.
 

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In addition;
The core of the second sentence is わるいのはぼくのほうさ.
わるいのは is the subject of the sentence.
じぶんのはげしさをかくせない modifies ぼく.
ほう means "side".
さ at the end of the sentence is a sentence final particle expressing the speaker's assertion, mostly used by male.
thank you so much!!!! :)

One question though: warui no wa boku no hou - does it mean literally "this bad side of me"?
 

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No it means "the bad is on my side." Like "I'm the one at fault."
As you probably know in English, one's "bad side" means something else.
 

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の is the pronoun for "side", and わるいの is the subject, as I wrote.
 

dhmkhkk

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No it means "the bad is on my side." Like "I'm the one at fault."
As you probably know in English, one's "bad side" means something else.
Aaaahhh thank you, I think I got it. Such a crazy sentence. I spent so much time trying to understand the structure... thanks for your help!
 
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