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Found this from another site:
home.wanadoo.nl/makiueda/diary/manual.html

This reminds me of the list of things that made the perfect housewife from the '50s in the US, but at the same time, it also seems like it's the effort of some lonely guy's fantasy...

either way, from what I've seen of today's girls, I doubt this list would work..., and it starts becoming humorous, probably not what the author intended....:emoji_flushed:

-MANUAL- HOW TO BECOME A "PERFECT" JAPANESE WOMAN

[1. GENERAL MANNER]

1.1. Smile all the time.

1.2. Smile cute.

1.3. Don't show your emotions too much.

1.4. Don't be opinionated too much. Behave as an innocent being. Follow
men always faithfully.

1.5. Don't show your cleverness too much, but it is important to be clever
not to make any mistake on following things which are written here.

1.6. Care and stay attentive to people around you all the time.

1.7. Be nice and generous to the people around you all the time.

1.8. Create a nice and soft atmosphere while talking, discussing, speaking.

1.9. Speak the Japanese Language in a woman's style. (There is quite a big difference
between man's Japanese and woman's Japanese.)

1.10. Don't talk loud. Speak softly.

1.11. Don't smoke.

1.12. Don't wind.

1.13. Don't belch.

1.14. Don't pick your nose.

1.15. Don't yawn without putting your hand over your mouth.

1.16. Don't laugh too loud, but laugh softly. If you want to laugh aloud, then
put your hand over your mouth.

1.17. Don't appeal your sexuality too much but stay sexy: Don't wear too
tight trousers, because men could see through the line of your panty.
Don't wear white shirts with dark-coloured brassiere, because men could see
through your bra, which is considered too sexy.

1.18. Don't make-up in the public space. Go to a toilet when you do it.

1.19. Show your weakness. Don't try to carry a heavy suitcase by yourself; try to ask men to help you. That will make your impression cute.

1.20. Sit in a woman's style. Bend your knees, and don't open your legs.

1.21. When your stairs up, be careful not to let anybody see your panty.

1.22. Don't walk bandy-legged.



[2. BODY CARE AND FASHION]

2.1. shave your legs.

2.2. Shave under your arms.

2.3. Shave your chin.

2.4. Keep your skin as smooth as possible.

2.5. Keep your skin as white as possible. Don't let it suntanned.

2.6. Wash your face every morning and evening. After washing the face,
but the cosmetic water (called "keshousui") and then milky cream (called
"nyuueki"), and on the top, put UV-cut foundation. Pack your face once in
a while.

2.7. A liver spot on your skin is evil.

2.8. Put make-up on always.

2.9. Make up your hairs too.

2.10. Keep your sole soft and clean.

2.11. Wear skirts.

2.12. Use the feminine colour like pink efficiently in your fashion.


[3. SANITARY CARE]

3.1. Carry tissues or a handkerchief all the time with you. Be ready to use
it when it is needed.

3.2. Take a bath every day and keep yourself clean.

3.3. The impression of 'clean' is important.

3.4. Don't let any man suspect when you have a period. Off course don't even
tell him that you have a period.



[4. TOILET]

4.1. Don't let anybody suspect that you are going to the toilet. It will
damage men's fantasy for women: "oh my god... how could such a lovely
beautiful lady pee and poop...!", for example.

4.2. If you have to excuse yourself, say "Excuse me, but I go to pick
up some flowers."

4.3. Don't let anybody hear the sound when you pee/poop. Flush before you
start things so that the water sound erases the sound you make. Each room often has a speaker who makes a fake water sound, so use
it to be ecologically friendly.



[5. AT THE OFFICE]

5.1. Make a tea or a coffee for men always. You offer before being asked.

5.2. Don't say your opinion.

5.3. Don't show your ability to work too much; always respect a man;
Remember that you are a woman and stay smile, patient, passive, then you will
I never get fired from companies.



[6. SHOPPING]

6.1. If you've bought some toilet papers, then you should put them in a bag,
not to make it too obvious that you carry toilet papers with you. Be
aware that holding toilet papers is not for a perfect Japanese woman.

6.2. If you buy some napkins or tampons at the convenience store like Seven
Eleven, and if a man is working at the checking counter, be aware that he would be shamed to touch them. Better to avoid it, and look for another
convenience store. But if it is urgent, get something else as well, for example,
drinks. He would be educated to wrap napkins/tampons separately in a non-transparent
paper bag.



[7. AT HOME]

7.1. Cook always. Women have to cook. Don't even ask men to cook. Follow the
the cooking book not to make any mistakes.

7.2. Do the housework properly. Be ready before your husband comes back home.

7.3. When your husband comes back home, ask first "Would you like to eat now
or take a bath first?"

7.4. Perform an ideal homemaker for your husband. Marriage for men is often
all about this fantasy.



[8. DATE/DINNER/PARTY]

8.1. Stay passive like a beautiful doll.

8.2. Don't finish the whole dish. Always leave some food on the plate.
That will make an impression as a modest girl.

8.3. Be careful about alcohol. Wait for men to suggest you to drink.
You may accompany them with drinking, but not too much. Stay sober. Any mistake
should not happen.

8.4. Fill men's glass always. It is essential if you are at the
company dinner. Don't ever make their glasses empty. Pour before they finish the glasses. When you pour beer from a bottle, the right hand should be on the bottle label, and the left hand should hold the top part of the bottle.

8.5. Care and maintain your make-up all the time.



[9. SEX]

9.1. Don't seduce men. Women are to be seduced. Don't say no when men
ask for it.

9.2. Stay passive. Men insert. Don't request too much. Behave like you
are feeling good.

9.3. Behave yourself like you are unexperienced and ashamed as if you are
a virgin. Men have a big fantasy for virgins.

9.4. Make a sexy voice.


Now, are you ready to become a "perfect Japanese woman"?

(ver.2 June 19, 2002 Maki Ueda)
 

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I guess in a similar vein, just saw this:

stratsplace.com/rogov/women_chefs.html


Rogov's Ramblings
Why So Few Women Are Great Chefs



A Personal Statement by A Hopefully Impartial Male Observer
The Michelin Guide awarded one or more stars to over 100 restaurants in Paris. This year. Thirty restaurants in that city earned three or more toques in the Gault-Millau Guide. Not one of the kitchens in any of these restaurants has a woman as its senior chef.
The French attitude against women in the professional kitchen is not a new one. As historian Lois W. Banner of Rutgers University reminds us, the French attitude against women in the professional kitchen is not new. The great chefs of France have always been men. Although some of the most famous of French dishes have been dedicated to or named after women (peach Melba was named after opera singer Dame Nellie Melba; potatoes Anna was named after the famous courtesan Anna Deslions; duckling Rachel was named after a great star of the Comedie Francaise, and sauce Beauharnais was dedicated to playwright and socialite Fannie de Beauharnais), the chefs who invented those dishes were all men. In fact, Banner writes, the conviction that women cannot be great chefs has become so much a part of French culture that it has even been institutionalized in the French language. Even though the word for the cook, le cuisinier has its feminine counterpart, la cuisiniere, there is no feminine counterpart to le chef.
Many astute observers of the French culinary and social scene have noted that although French men, like their counterparts in nearly all other Western societies, expect women to manage their homes, raise their children and produce the food for their families, they expect the creators of great cuisine to be men. In 1950 Fernand Point, the inventor of nouvelle cuisine and the teacher of such notables as Paul Bocuse, Jean Troisgrois and Alain Chapel, was asked why he had never agreed to accept a woman as a student. Point responded that "only men have the technique, discipline and passion that makes cooking an art consistently". In 1954, a year before his death, Point reiterated this idea when he said that "women are meant to decorate professional kitchens. They should not, however, be allowed to cook in them". More recently in 1988, Paul Bocuse, who learned his lessons well from Point, remarked in an interview with the daily newspaper, "Le Figaro", that "the chef who names a dish after a woman is a gentleman and a diplomat. The chef who invites that same woman into his kitchen as a colleague is a fool".
So much a part of the "accepted wisdom" has the male domination of the chef's profession become that even women have been largely convinced of its justice. When Point, who was the owner and chef of the renowned "La Pyramide" in the small city of Vienne, died in 1955 his widow refused to take over the cooking. Even though she had always managed the restaurant, served as her husband's sous-chef and was the only person with full knowledge of her husband's creations, she chose to find another man to replace her husband in the kitchen. American journalist Joseph Wechsberg noted for his male chauvinism that "the widow Point had too much respect for la grande cuisine to attempt it herself".
Nor is the prejudice against women as chefs merely a French one. In America, for example, where since the 17th century, women have traditionally been the cooks in local taverns and neighbourhood restaurants, elegant cooking in fine restaurants and other exclusive kitchens has always been produced by men. Before Thomas Jefferson was elected president in 1801, he lived on a luxurious plantation in Virginia and his food was prepared by female slaves. When he moved to Washington, he immediately employed a male French chef to manage the presidential kitchen. Since then many American presidents, including Dwight David Eisenhower, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy have employed women cooks for their private dining but have hired male chefs to head up the White House kitchens.
In England, where since the 15th-century women have traditionally been in charge of the kitchens of the homes of Princesses, Princes, Barons, Earls and Dukes, those in charge of the kitchens of Kings and Queens have been men. Not a single woman has ever been admitted into the ranks of the Royal Society of Chefs.
The Arguments Against Women Becoming Chefs
There are five major arguments, almost always supplied by male chefs, given to explain the absence of women at the upper echelons of the profession. The first three factors are related to the physiological differences between the sexes, and the remaining arguments are almost always phrased in terms of psychology.
- The physical work required of the chef is too difficult for most women.
Because of their need and desire to have and raise children, women are not suited to the chef's long hours.
-Women do not have the same level of taste sensitivity as men, which disqualifies them from the creation of great cuisine.
- Women perceive cooking as personal, while men take pride in food per se and detach it from the eater.
- Women do not have the managerial skills necessary to see a large kitchen over-.
All of this may sound reasonable enough at first glance, but on closer examination, each of these so-called explanations fails to meet the tests of either logic or reality. The argument, for example, that chefs need great physical stamina to lift the huge pots in a professional kitchen, to carry heavy cartons of meat, vegetables and fruits, and to stir the sauces in soups in preparation for a large number of diners may have been true during the Middle Ages but has not been true for at least four hundred years. One wonders, for example about those women who had the same problem of long hours and physical labour when they dominated the kitchens of the homes of the well-to-do English, French, Russian and Italian families between the 15th and 19th centuries. Today, while no one would deny that the work of the chef is physically demanding, modern chefs are rarely called upon in a single day to shift four to five tons of furniture, to sweep, mop and vacuum large areas of floors, to clean ceilings, to scrub toilets, or to carry heavy bags of grocery supplies - all tasks that are fulfilled daily by women who maintain the traditional roles of the housewife.
The second major argument is that chefs must invest long, frequently unconventional hours and are often called on to work split-shifts. This is a valid one, easily explaining why many people do not advance to the chef's profession's top ranks. The important (and logical) point, however, is that the argument has no more validity for men than for women and this is demonstrated by the already large and constantly increasing number of women in the professions of medicine, law, nursing, law enforcement, psychiatry, and journalism, all of which frequently require equally demanding hours in the workplace, also about the question of time commitment, some claim that women do not advance in the ranks of chefdom because the path to success demands a long and difficult apprenticeship. That such an apprenticeship is essential to a fine chef's development is undeniable, but it is equally a part of becoming a fine surgeon or attorney. Interns and residents in hospitals are often required to be on duty for 48 or more hours, and no distinction is made between married or unmarried men and women when duty rosters are drawn up. Such long and devoted hours are no less a part of earning a doctorate in sociology, anthropology or psychology, professions in which many women are found.
That the marital status of women or her status as a parent influences her ability to work long and often irregular hours is a valid statement, especially in traditional families where the wife is expected to carry the main burden of maintaining the house, doing the shopping and taking care of the children. However, it does not reflect on the ability or desire of single women or on those whose partners are willing to share the burdens (and, if one likes, pleasures) of the home.
The third argument that women genetically lack the fine sense of taste discrimination that men are born with is nothing more than nonsense. This bit of fallacious folk-wisdom, which dates back to the Egyptian pharaohs' days, has simply no basis in reality. Many biological research studies have demonstrated unequivocally that sex alone has no impact whatever on taste discrimination. A related and equally frivolous argument that women are so concerned with their figures that they will never taste enough to develop discriminating palates is equally easy to dismiss. As is evident to anyone with even a basically sound sense of vision, many of today's better known male chefs (Pierre Gagniere, Jean-Michel Lorain, Jean-Marie Amat, Alain Ducasse and Didier Oudil, for example) are quite slim. There has never been a requirement for great chefs to be fat.
The fourth argument, about the differences in how men and women perceive food, is perhaps fascinating. Historian Page Smith, states that "while women may be great cooks, very few are capable of becoming great chefs". As her justification for this statement, Smith writes that "woman's cooking is personal ... she cooks for those she loves and wishes to nurture, and her cooking is thus sacramental. On the other hand, a famous chef is a culinary artist, and this is something quite different, for the male chef takes pride in the food per se and can detach it from the eater. Women cook for the people they love. Men cook for the sake of art". There is logic to this argument, but it is a logic based on the fact that women have been assigned the joint roles of nurturers of the family and housekeepers for thousands of years. Sociologist Liora Gvion of Tel Aviv University hypothesizes that because these roles have traditionally been devalued and that because most women still cook at home, they will resent the idea of cooking as a career for "as modern as they may conceive themselves, they still perceive cooking as a female domestic task".
The argument that women do not have the managerial skills to supervise a large kitchen is obviously fallacious, and this can be seen by studying the increasingly large number of women who are hospital administrators, senior editors of newspapers and magazines, and corporate executives, positions that frequently require the organization and supervision of staffs far larger than those found at nearly all of the world's great restaurants. The claim that women are not capable of supervising or organizing men can be dismissed in precisely the same manner.
Painful Realities
The truth is that the reasons most often given to explain why women are not great chefs are not valid. The painful reality is that women have not become great chefs largely because men, willingly or not, have chosen to monopolize the field. Many men who encourage or "allow" women to enter the kitchen, often do so only at an entry-level and rarely allow them to rise to that point where they will become serious competition for themselves.
From ancient Greece and Rome, when elegant dining became a symbol of social status and economic success, women were excluded from cooking as a profession. As Lois Banner and others indicate, the banning of women in the kitchen was a direct reflection of Greek and early Roman society's male tyranny in which women, other than courtesans, were excluded from public gatherings, denied entry into any profession whatever and largely confined to their homes. Although female slaves were allowed to bake bread and perform other menial kitchen tasks, male slaves who planned the luxurious feasts created the elaborate dishes that were served and received the applause of the banqueteers.
Because women were seen as inferior creatures, wealthy Romans were convinced that having male servants and chefs added to their status. This attitude passed on to the servants as well. By Julius Caesar's time, it was generally accepted that male servants (including chefs) had a far higher level of status than that of servants who were merely female. In fact, becoming a chef rapidly became a highly accepted way for a man to improve his social status. Taillevent, the cook of King Charles V and writer of the first French cookbook was given both an estate and a title by the king; Francois Pierre de la Varenne made a fortune as the cook of King Henry IV; Vatel, who was the son of a Flemish labourer, made himself world-famous as head cook and household manager for the Prince of Conde; Antonin Careme, the son of an itinerant stonemason, rose as a chef to become the toast of Napoleonic Europe; and the great Escoffier, who was the son of a blacksmith, rose in status to become the best known and most respected chef of Europe and North America.
Because such men wanted to guard their status, they had no desire to let women enter their domain. Partially because they felt that identification of their profession with women would serve to debase it in the world's eyes, men had to prove that they were different than ordinary cooks (women) and that they were not merely artisans or servants (like women) as they were artists and great creators. According to men, women had no place in this male world, and those same men were in positions of power to ensure that they would not enter it.
To ensure and enhance their status, the guilds that were formed to protect chefs' rights even invented special emblems - status symbols such as the crown-like hat that contemporary chefs wear that would set themselves aside from more ordinary mortals. From their costumes to their salaries and self-images, chefs did everything possible to differentiate themselves from ordinary cooks. In the end, there was a little place in the profession for women because male chefs exerted their efforts to ensure that women would always be associated with plain, simple home cooking.
The passage of time did not change the situation, and during the Victorian era, the distance between women and the professional kitchen was widened even more. During this time virtuous women were expected to stay at home, concerning themselves primarily with domestic matters. Nor did Victorian society encourage women to be creative. Even though they were allowed to supervise their own kitchens from a distance, they were not encouraged to cook themselves. As philosopher John Stuart Mill wrote in 1867, society did not "allow women to have that ardent desire for celebrity" that was necessary to succeed in any profession. To the contrary, while men were expected to be powerful and achievement-oriented, women were expected to preserve such virtues as modesty, gentility and stability.
These attitudes were carried to such an extreme that women were even barred from the ranks of gourmets. The French, almost always first to lead the ranks of male chauvinists, do not even have a female version for the word "gourmet" and Grimod de la Reyniere, the 19th-century author of the "Almanach des Gourmands", agreed with many of countrymen that "women, who are light eaters and invariably become restless sitting at the diner table ... must be banished from gourmet meals".
Anyone who agrees with sociologist Robert Bierstedt, that "genius in any professional endeavour is reserved exclusively to men" is simply deluding themselves. There have not been more than a few great female chefs, just as there have not been many great women painters or orchestra conductors has nothing to do with genetics but is linked to a large variety of complex historical, psychological and sociological reasons. Women have written great cookbooks, have created superb new dishes and have even invented entire new cuisines (Cajun and Creole cuisines, for example, were both created by female slaves in Louisiana). Despite this, however, status-conscious male chefs have continued to deny women access to their prestigious profession.
Nor has there been great progress in our own, more "enlightened times". While it is true that more women have entered the lower ranks of the profession (sous-chefs, conditores, dessert chefs), there has precious little increase in France, England, the United States or Israel in the ranks of women who have risen to the top of the chefs' profession. In 1952, Holiday Magazine released its first annual listing of what they considered the"100 Best Restaurants in America". Only two women were listed as the chefs in those restaurants. In 1992, forty years later, the list included only one woman (Alice Waters of "Chez Panisse").
The reason that there are so few great women chefs is not that women are not capable of becoming great chefs. Nor is it that women no longer want to become chefs. The sad but simple truth is that women have not become great chefs because the role has not been available. Whether male chefs are aware of it or not (and whether they are willing to face up to it or not), the vast majority of them have determined that their profession, like football and war, should be an exclusively male domain.
a) Lois W. Banner: "Why Women Have Not Been Great Chefs, The South Atlantic Quarterly, Spring 1991.
b) Joseph Wechsberg, "Hors Concours: Mme. Marie-Louise Point", New Yorker, 5 Oct 63.
c) Daniel Rogov: "Israel Restaurant Guide", in Bazak Guide to Israel, 1994-95.
d) Page Smith: Daughters of the Promised Land: Women in American History, Boston University Press, 1970.
e) In 1989, to the great discomfort of many French gourmets, a group of feminists formed the first "societe des gourmettes", whose charter states that "membership will be open exclusively to women of discriminating palates".
f) Robert Bierstedt: The Social Order, Basic Books, New York, 1957.​
 

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Originally posted by den4
either way, from what I've seen of today's girls, I doubt this list would work...and it starts becoming humorous, probably not what the author intended...

Wow, this must be a joke!

7.3. When your husband comes back home, ask first "Would you like to eat now or take a bath first?"

If I asked my wife to comply to this list, she'd kick me out in a second.
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Re: Re: perfect Japanese woman?

Originally posted by thomas
Wow, this must be a joke!

or somebody who needs help coming up to speed into the 21st century... :D

If I asked my wife to comply to this list, she'd kick me out in a second.
:)

wouldn't take a second...more like instantaneous... :D
but you know the person that wrote it definitely isn't married, or if he is, then he's dreaming... :D

:D :D :D
 
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Oh! My! God! is that for real????
I'm delighted to hear that the Japanese ladies out there(in Thomas's house, hehe) do not live by the perfect Japanese lady rules, that list of rules is sooo wrong!!! For any woman (coming from a woman of course hehe) I mean how could any woman function as a human living by those rules??? just as a second thought!! I have ever watched any old type of film with a Japanese lady in it. These rules were made for her. She would have been attentive to men beyond my belief, are these rules correct for the older generations of Japanese ladies??? 🙂
 

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Two or three generations ago Western women were supposed to follow some of these "rules" or stereotypes too. Hehe, I wouldn't disagree with all of them.
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That is some of the funniest stuff I have ever read. If real (and believe me it is possible) it reads like a 50 nightmare. I just printed it up to generate conversation at the bon-enkai tonight. Should go over great when I show it to my fiance as well. I can see it now.....


"Umm, Shigeko...Umm I saw this thing about Japanese women and , umm... how come you don't do any of thee things...."

Wok flies across spacious LDK and dents brewdudes skull

"Owww"
 

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4.1. Don't let anybody suspect that you are going to the toilet. It will damage men's fantasy for women: "oh my god... how could such a lovely beautiful lady pee and poop...!" , for example.

6.1. If you've bought some toilet papers, then you should put them in a bag, not to make it too obvious that you carry toilet papers with you. Be aware that holding toilet papers is not for perfect Japanese woman.

this was so so so funny!!! how could those guys so out of their mind & think that "lovely lady" can avoid from these??? i hardly believe that it's true... and even if so, i agree that it must be some sort of fantasy from the japanese guys...

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Well, I've read that quickly, but it seems to be exactly what the Japanese society expects of their women (at least the perfect model they should try to follow).

I guess hostesses are pretty close from that...
 

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That's true, but hostesses get paid for it. And not bad at that! ;)
 

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:D

What's funny is the fella that wrote it (or translated it) does not show the original J-version of the list (if it even exists). Why would the Japanese men expect their women to follow a list written in English? Wouldn't it be in nihongo? Seems like it was done just to poke fun at the Japanese conventions, or created for westerners' viewing only.... :D

what would be really interesting is to see actual guidelines of OLs or other office workers from their own handbook guidelines at actual companies....and perhaps even the eigo version of such guidelines... :D

den4 :D:clap:
 

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It's a parody, as the webmaster listed the feature under "Fun"

=> home.wanadoo.nl/makiueda

Actually, the webmaster is a Japanese girl living in Rotterdam.

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been braindead these past few days....must've been the fumes from the varathane that i'd been using to seal the wooden floors after sanding them... :D

Thanks, Thomas, for clarifying that.... :D

den4 knows nothing... :D
 

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Yeah, I'm disappointed too, now I have to take that list down from our wall...

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Actually Thomas, It is meant as fun for us foreigners but when I showed the list to my Fiancee last night she said that is is pretty spot on for Japan of a generation ago. While she and her mother do not have to be quite that into it her Grandmother did most of those things. Also ...Women really do flush first to hide the sound of their pee and my Fiancee did a wonderful impression of rule 7.3 for me (Sitting seiza in front of the genkan and saying it in Japanese - some other rules were in play also as she was using the "cute" voice) She did not hit me in the head with a wok though, she even wondered why I thought the list was so funny. So that is the take of an actual Japanese woman.
 

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You are right, these stereotypes and expectations in regard to female behaviour still seem to be prevalent in J-society. My wife wasn't too enchanted about the list either. Of course I didn't laugh, as she "applies the wok" for lesser reasons.
 

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Check this out

=> internet.ls-la.net/pictures/A-good-wifes-guide.html

This time it's no joke.

A-good-wifes-guide.jpg
 

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Originally posted by brewdude
Also ...Women really do flush first to hide the sound of their pee.. So that is the take of an actual Japanese woman.

Wow, that's some fiancee you got there, I know they invented toilets in Japan to mute out any embarrassing sounds, but it wasn't to mute the sound of urination. I'd hate to be with a girl for the rest of my life who was that self-conscious about her own anatomy, my advice to you is call the whole thing off before it's too late, just joking buddy.

It's like I've had too many Japanese girls already, in the states and sizzlin' on the pan itself and I'd tell everyone to get a real take off an actual Japanese woman you can't be some loser and as much as everyone tells you "hey go to Japan, and you'll meet some girl who pleads for marriage and a life-long commitment to doing your laundry," cause those girls are a dime a dozen, so next time you go back, represent in some phat clothing and if your, not some 25+-year-old looza you'll get to realize what you have to take advantage of over there (and marriage isn't an advantage, it's suicide unless you don't have a life)

Josh

*** here is one of the photos from my trip, that's quality right there, put some girl you married on one part of a scale and then put this girl in multiples of ten on the other part of the scale and figure which one is worth more, ya heard? word is bond. ***

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Is that a cloaked figure in the background?

...sorry wrong thread... :)
 

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Well Josh, how nice.

No where did I say MY girlfriend flushed to hide the sound of her pee. Just said it happens here. As for your lame attempt at ghetto humour...well it sucked. Oh and my Girlfriend is easily the better than that ****** photo you put on the net. In the future I would thank you not to insult my fiancee you ****!
 

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Josh, I don't know how old you are, but I would like you to read your own post in ten years from now and to comment on it. Anyhow, in future please refrain from ambiguous jokes that lead to misunderstandings.

If it's getting too personal I urge you both to resort to Private Messaging.

Thanks guys! ;)
 

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Originally posted by thomas
Josh, I don't know how old you are,
I turn 16 in september, oh yeaaa' and i'm going to have video of my trip to tokyo online later today!!! word em up.
Josh, aka ghettocities..
Clips to the video will be posted @ the site.
http://www.geocities.com/ghettocities/
If you want the whole video itself add me to IM,
MSN: sehrerj[at]hotmail.com
YIM: jouzu20jp
AOL: Josh1sk8 (mostly just used mobile)
 

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH, we just posted the funniest photos and video clips on our site, if anyone has a spare minute check it out and if you want a free copy of the video / dvd just ask cause weve been giving lots of promotional away lately.

Ghettocities Clothing (Tokyo Promo 02/03)
Free photos, video, music, and everything else Shinjuku.
http://www.geocities.com/ghettocities/
 

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