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We all humans wish to live under shade of peace, luck, mercy and justice. The people of Yemen are among us and think so.
They also wish to be safe and secure in their own land and not to be under bombardment of the warplanes that Saudi king, Solomon Abdul- Aziz send out to Yemen.
The warplanes that launch bomb on the home and market of Yemenis and also bombard hospitals, schools, power plants, and municipal water supplies that provide water for citizens. Many many people of Yemen have been killed up to now that the numbers of them are children.

This is an obvious sign of barbarism in our era and the King of Saudi is responsible of those destruction and massacres.
I request Mr. Ban Ki-Moon, the manager of United Nation Organization, to kickback Saudis and throw them out from Yemen and establish a court for trial of Saudi king and his assistants.
 

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One can't be blind to the competing interests in Yemen. The Houthis are not interested in peace and mercy, as it seems their official slogan includes "Death to America" and "Death to Israel". Who can call such people "peace-loving"? This is yet another sad chapter in the long, long tragedy of religious infighting in the Middle East, occasionally made worse by Western powers, by Russia, by local fascist rulers, and sometimes made worse by neglect and disinterest.

I do regret the US makes things worse by supplying Saudi Arabia with such weapons as cluster-bombs. I also regret that the US is guilty (as is Russia and China) of making the UN a fairly toothless organization. Americans do not wish to be under the authority of the UN, but they do want other countries to submit to UN authority. Russia and China are the same.
 

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Yemen is a poor country and its people are not deserve to be imposed such oppression. Solomon Abdul Aziz has purchased milliard dollars of developed fighters and other weapon and is using them versus that poor people and it is a tragedy in our era that is called the century of civilization!
I think it is the task of all nations to protest to Solomon Abdul Aziz and other sheikhs that accompany him.

Also America government should not sell those weapons to Saudi Arabia, when president Mr. Obama is informed that a mad leader such as Solomon Abdul Aziz uses those weapons versus a poor and shelterless people, opposite to the international laws.
America has a lot of developed industries and high technology and it can plans for other trades with other countries rather than Saudi Arabia. Selling weapon to Solomon Abdul Aziz causes some damages to reputation of America, although America government is not involved to the war crime of Solomon Abdul Aziz directly.

Also UN should stop Solomon Abdul Aziz doing those horrible crimes and assassinations in Yemen.
 
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Speaking of Yemen, I saw this on the road here in America just a couple weeks ago. There are quite a few Yemeni people here.
 

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There is much to agree with in your post, Mansoor. And, as I mentioned in my earlier post, there is unfortunately an opposing faction in Yemen who has taken up arms and is trying to overthrow the government there, and who also wishes genocide on a large part of humanity. So the question of how to oppose this group is a serious question for all of humanity.
 

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Dear Majestic, it is not an opposition group in Yemen but it is the nation of Yemen that is defending their land and their ideal government.

Yemenis are shouting, " we don't want Mansoor Hadi. He was not an acceptable and loyal person to be worthy for presidency of Yemen. He was dependent on Saudis and was a danger for territory integrity of our land.
His purpose was not to serve Yemenis, but he wanted to chain us under domination of Saudi that itself is an illegal regime in Arabia. He wanted to offer us as slaves to kings of Saudis. He was himself a person with tendency to Saudi party and acted as a spy and sent the secret information of our country to Saudi organizations and this is called treason certainly. Our evidence is that, after protests and revolution of Yemeni nation, he fled to Saudi Arabia and is now beside Solomon Abdul Aziz, Saudi sultan!
In recent air show that was performed in Arabia and warplanes of Saudi were showing their power! we saw Mansoor Hadi was on an imperial sofa beside Solomon Abdul Aziz and was watching warplanes that were maneuvering in the sky! The warplanes that release a lot of bombs on the cities of Yemen and kill Yemeni citizens group after group! Who can claims such troll is deserve to be president of Yemen?..."

Based on declaration of Yemeni people, I think they are right, and not only Mansoor Hadi is not worthy to govern on Yemen, but he is at point of treason and collaboration with the foreign attacker to Yemen and should be tried in a revolutionary court of this country.

I myself saw in Saudi TV; warplanes of Saudi were doing acrobatic operations in the air show and Mansoor Hadi was watching them happily and had an evil smile on his face.
Nonetheless, one thing is certain and it is that Mansoor Hadi will never reach his wish! He is waiting hopelessly to occur a miracle and he returns to presidency office of Yemen with a military escort of Saudi's corps, but based on my forecast this will never happen and neither the dream of Solomon Abdul Aziz nor Mansoor Hadi will never be interpreted.
 
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Dear Majestic, it is not an opposition group in Yemen but it is the nation of Yemen that is defending their land and their ideal government.
It isn't as simple as this. In fact it is much, much more complicated than a popular revolution. You cannot ignore the influence of the Houthis, and indeed most of the Arab states feel the Houthis do not belong in power. The UN is troubled by the role of the Houthis in this (and, they are also troubled by the role of the Saudis). Hopefully the cease-fire will last and a political solution will be found.
 

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My impression is that Yemen is a proxy war between Saudi and Iran.
Iran is not militant and this has been proved during 35 years after Iranian revolution, but Iran nation support every oppressed people that are under fire of dictator leaders.
Iran nation believe in international laws and demand that UN laws are implemented without any discrimination. So Iran is not the cause of conflict but try to resolve the troublesome issues that damage people and mostly are created by selfish and racist leaders.
Of course Iran has advised Saudis frequently to go back to the logic and peace and leave their obstinacy, arrogance and infringement, but sadly they payed not attention to the warning and increased their bombardment versus citizens of Yemen.
Anyhow, Iran tend to a logical and lawfully diplomatic relationship with all countries (except Israel). It also tend to science, wisdom, cultural issues, literature subjects and spiritual matters that lead humans to a high morality and a permanent fortune.

Solomon Abdul Aziz is in a great mistake. confrontation with a nation is not a wisely policy. its bad consequence will appear in the future, like a tsunami that its destroyer waves appear in the next hours.

The issue is very simple. Saudis attacked Yemen and Yemenis are defending their land.
 

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but Iran nation support every oppressed people that are under fire of dictator leaders.
How did Iran support the people oppressed by al-Assad in Syria?
 

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Dear mdchachi, Assad is faultless starting the war in Syria. As you know, the terrorist group Daesh was the cause of the war and ruins in Syria.

Dr.Assad just did the same that is the duty of a president . He stood up against those terrorists and rebel groups that set Syria in fire and were the cause of death and homelessness thousands of Syrian people, in addition to destruction of many cities and villages of this country.
Leaders of Daesh and rebel groups in Syria are unrest, lawbreaker and mad. Their extreme and false opinions is contrary to law and civilization.

They are some wild and illogical group that assassination and destroying is in the headline of their charter!
Sadly they have deceived and brainwashed the naive or illiterate persons to join them, whether in Syria or other lands. So such terrorist and rebel groups that their great crimes and felonies have been revealed obviously, are not deserve to be considered as a rightful people!
I wonder why some western politicians separate the rebel groups of Syria from Daesh and say, Syrian rebel groups are among good terrorists and Daesh is among bad terrorists!
 

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The issue is very simple.
I think you are the only one in the world who believes the issue is simple. Unfortunately, the reality is that the Yemen issue, and the Syrian issue, is very complicated.

You can understand everyone's surprise when you claim support for the Yemenis against Mansur Hadi, yet you have no sympathy for the Syrians who resist the leadership of Syria.
 

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People who shout, "Death to America!" don't get any of my support.
Ronald, the phrase that Yemenis says, doesn't mean dead to America. It does mean, " Policy of America is against us and it should not be". So people of Yemen have not hostility to America or Americans but they are unhappy of policies of America government that support Saudis by weapon and political actions.
 
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You want me to believe they're shouting something they don't mean? "Death to America" doesn't mean death to America?

If they really mean death to American policy, then why don't they shout that? "Death to American policy" doesn't rile me the way "death to America" does. There is much to criticize about US policies, and I don't mind if you do. Calling for reform of our policies is far different from calling for the death of our nation.

I bet you wouldn't like it much if we were holding "Death to Iran" rallies here. Oh, but we're really criticizing Iran's policies. Right.

I don't know much about the conflict in Yemen, other than that Saudi is supporting one side and Iran the other. Saudi, however unsavory their government, is a putative friend of the US. Iran is considered a hostile nation. Why shouldn't I think Iran is trying to expand its empire and sphere of control? You give us lots of argument, but not much in the way of facts and evidence.
 

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Ronald, believe in my expression and the reality that I interpreted. The destination of the phrase is not a land or its people. As I told, the discontent in the mind of Iranians, Yemenis or Syrians or some other peoples is just due to foreign policies of America government.

We would like to have a comprehensive relation with people of the world. There is not any separation
between American and other people in our mind. We respect people of America, but avoid to have any relationship with America government.
Of course we have always waited for a basic
reformation in the Washington policies and expected they return to a more popular policies but sadly our our expectation was in vain and we didn't observe any change in the procedures.
So be sure, we have a good thought about people of America and even are interested you can travel to Iran, visit this ancient country and meet its people closely. I bet, when you are going back to America the most of your imaginations will change and you will find out, how much Iran is humanity.
 

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I think you are the only one in the world who believes the issue is simple. Unfortunately, the reality is that the Yemen issue, and the Syrian issue, is very complicated.

You can understand everyone's surprise when you claim support for the Yemenis against Mansur Hadi, yet you have no sympathy for the Syrians who resist the leadership of Syria.
Majestic I have to reject the viewpoint that the issue of Yemen is nested.
Saudi regime tried to dominate on Yemen ideologically and politically and Mansoor Hadi was one of the key agent of Saudi. The People of Yemen were enlightened about the plan of Saudi and Hadi's identity was revealed for them. Due to the fact, Yemenis revolted and drove out Hadi from Yemen.
He fled to Arabia and king of Saudi, Solomon Abdul Aziz became mad. He began buying the new warplane, weapon, equipment and added them to the mass of his weapons and then attacked Yemen. In respond to Saudi's invasion, in that unequal war, army and people of Yemen defended against them. The sorrowful issue is that, the most of Saudi attack was a series of air strike and their targets were civilians and public places in the cities.
 
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Yemenis revolted and drove out Hadi from Yemen.
You cannot selectively interpret Yemeni history. In fact it was Saleh who was driven out during the Arab Spring, amid popular uprising against his lack of democratic reforms. Saleh didn't mind escaping to Saudi Arabia to get medical treatment there, and now Saleh is back and is allied with the Houthis, attacking the current President.
Saudi Arabia's conduct in this affair is not honorable, and the US and UK and other nations have to question their support for Saudi Arabia. But the UN Panel of Experts on Yemen is crystal clear in saying that

2. Attacks on civilians and civilian objects
131. As mentioned above, none of the parties to the conflict have upheld the
principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution. In this regard, all the
parties have attacked civilians and civilian objects


Ignoring this and claiming the Houthis rebellian is a popular protest, is simply partisanship.

Yemen: Injured President Saleh heads to Saudi Arabia for medical treatment | World news | The Guardian
 
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Mansoor, believe in my expression and the reality that if Americans hear you say "death to America," most are going to believe you mean death to America. Most Americans will conclude that you hate us and want to destroy us. Americans are a fiercely patriotic people, and will react accordingly.

Don't forget that we are a democracy, and elect our government. The American people are ultimately accountable for our government. If you complain about our government, your complaint is about us--We the People, as we say in our constitution that establishes the foundation for our government. That doesn't mean the government always does the right thing, always does what the majority wish, or always does what I prefer. But rightly or wrongly, it is OUR government.
 

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Both Saleh and Hadi fled somewhere else. But usually the bad leaders that are going to escape to another country claim they are going for treatment! When Shah was fleeing from Iran, he said to reporters and journalists the same. He told that he is leaving Iran for a while for treatment! He carried a lot of ( national) wealth along with himself and never came back to Iran.

in 22 June 2015, after Yemenis occupied presidency office of Hadi, he resigned from presidency and after a while escaped to Aden city. lately, he withdrew his resignation and claimed, he was the only legal leader of Yemen. In 22 Mars 2015, after Saudi's invasion to Yemen, he joined Saudis.
 

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in 22 June 2015, after Yemenis occupied presidency office of Hadi, he resigned from presidency and after a while escaped to Aden city. lately, he withdrew his resignation and claimed, he was the only legal leader of Yemen. In 22 Mars 2015, after Saudi's invasion to Yemen, he joined Saudis.
Yes, I now know all that, but it doesn't mean that the Houthis represent a democratic, or even popular revolution. You say above "Yemenis occupied the presidency office of Hadi", but the Houthis are not representative of all of Yemen. Hadi, who was elected (for better or worse) has more claim to the office than the armed militias. And you cannot ignore that Saleh was highly unpopular, so why do you claim that the Saleh-Houthi alliance is now good for Yemen, or that the Yemeni people all want this change?

June 4th, 2011
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Inspired by uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, protesters have been trying unsuccessfully since February to oust Saleh with a wave of peaceful demonstrations that have brought out hundreds of thousands daily in Sana'a and other cities.
 
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