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Vinylhoer

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I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this post:
ex X-Japan vocal Toshi announces retirement,after being accused of child abuse | Japan Forum

In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実無根
Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'. That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根 would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 無根 = without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour).

I'm I thinking the right way here or am I wrong? :?

-edit- url to post and should learn to use cut and paste better :D -edit-
 
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Vinylhoer said:
I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this thread:
ex X-Japan vocal Toshi announces retirement,after being accused of child abuse | Japan Forum

In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実事実
Um, those kanji aren't in that thread.
Vinylhoer said:
Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'.
You don't want to use Babelfish to translate words.
Vinylhoer said:
That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根
Different kanji that time round.
Vinylhoer said:
would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 事実
Er, 無根.
Vinylhoer said:
= without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour).
Pretty good - ignoring the bit where you keep mixing up 無根 and 事実 :p

WWWJDIC says
事実無根 【じじつむこん】 (n) groundless; entirely contrary to fact; (P)
 
😊 😊 😊

Next time I'll wake up first before I post questions like this 😊

And I know I shouldn't use babelfish, but I didn't have anything else and I thought it made sense. Kanji dictionary is on it's way to me right now :)

My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?
 
Vinylhoer said:
My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?
Sure, a rumour may or may not have some truth to it - but 事実無根 is an assertion that there is no basis to some position / story.
 
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