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Japanese Flags (yet another) - Please help clarify if fake (v2)

CalvinJH

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Hey all,

Long time no post, I'm looking for help with some translations again, I was hoping if someone could clarify if this flag is fake/real.


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- Calvin
 

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The flag was given to 宮下廣長 Miyashita Hironaga. The only slogan written there is a typical patriotic one 武運長久 "eternal good luck in battle." The rest is all signatures. I can't judge if it's genuine or not.
 

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Me neither. It doesn't look like an obvious fake (the orientation of the signatures seems OK, no obvious fake signatures like "Hideki Tojo" or anything like that).
 

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The flag was given to 宮下廣長 Miyashita Hironaga. The only slogan written there is a typical patriotic one 武運長久 "eternal good luck in battle." The rest is all signatures. I can't judge if it's genuine or not.

Me neither. It doesn't look like an obvious fake (the orientation of the signatures seems OK, no obvious fake signatures like "Hideki Tojo" or anything like that).

Thanks for the help guys, I think I will take a miss on this one. Here are some images of the ones you helped with last year or the year before, I will soon be getting them framed. The strange thing is that the smaller one has a stitched middle.
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What about these? Do they look fake? Thanks for the input!!!

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The second and last one are obviously fake. I can't judge the rest, but seems suspicious to me.
 

Mike Cash

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At some point, the number of these flags is going to exceed the total number of IJA soldiers.
 

Mike Cash

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Another interesting one!

The only ones of these I find interesting are genuine ones in museums and laughably fake ones in private hands.

I find the interest in owning or collecting these to be ghoulish.
 

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The second one of post #5 uses some unique kanji for サムハラ. These kanji are almost unknown except for a shrine of the same name in Osaka. They do not appear in unicode, so I can't replicate them, but you can find them here;
サムハラ神社 - Wikipedia
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I find the interest in owning or collecting these to be ghoulish.

Sorry - I do not mean to offend, I collect to preserve history and not for anything else. My flag collection includes many other countries too. I also have a large movie poster collection including many Japanese titles.

The second one of post #5 uses some unique kanji for サムハラ. These kanji are almost unknown except for a shrine of the same name in Osaka. They do not appear in unicode, so I can't replicate them, but you can find them here;
サムハラ神社 - Wikipedia
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Thanks for the information, appreciated!
 

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It is for someone named Saitō Ei. It is presented from someone at the shrine in Nikkō.
The erstwhile phrase "Good luck in battle" on the right, and on the left a phrase that I think is supposed to invoke the luck of the spirits. Other than that it seems to be all names.
 

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I misused the word "erstwhile" most of my life
That makes two of us. :facepalm:
And, along with penultimate, this is another word I hope to use correctly from now on. Imagine, coming to Japan and learning how to speak English correctly, one painful word at a time.
 

Mike Cash

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That makes two of us. :facepalm:
And, along with penultimate, this is another word I hope to use correctly from now on. Imagine, coming to Japan and learning how to speak English correctly, one painful word at a time.

I've given up on ever being able to correctly use "hopefully" in a sentence. I just gave up using it entirely instead.

I really did have a painful experience learning how to speak English after coming to Japan. Nobody could understand my accent and trying to speak that bland generic standard American English so Japanese people could understand me did indeed cause muscle soreness.
 

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Can I please have some advice on this one? It is located very close to me. Thanks!
The signature on the right end is a Shintō priest 矢田部盛枝 Yatabe Morie of 日光二荒山神社宮司 Nikkō Futarasan Shrine. Google search results say that this priest really existed.
There is also a signature of 日光電気精銅所長 岸野佐吉 Kishino Sakichi, The head of the Nikko Copper Works on the left side of the red circle. This company really existed, too (the present 古河電気工業株式会社 Furukawa Electric Co., Ltd.).
Seems like genuine.
 

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Many thanks for the help, here is another one from the same seller!

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Mike Cash

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You know, there comes a point when people stop thinking they're helping out of kindness and start thinking they're being used.

We're not a free online appraisal service.
 

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You know, there comes a point when people stop thinking they're helping out of kindness and start thinking they're being used.

We're not a free online appraisal service.

Sorry, I am not interested in buying anymore, I am just interested to see what is written on them.
 

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Sorry, I am not interested in buying anymore, I am just interested to see what is written on them.

Even less are we here to endlessly satisfy pointless idle curiosity. Have you considered making efforts to learn the language yourself?
 

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The thread doesn't "offend" me, but it has turned into the equivalent of an infant amusing himself by repeatedly throwing his toy on the floor and having someone pick it up for him. As long as we'll keep pointlessly translating things from every single flag and offering opinions regarding their authenticity, you'll keep scouring the net for pictures of flags to have us do it for you again. It is pointless.
 
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