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Can anyone tell me what these characters mean? Any help is appreciated!
 

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敎(=教)練
kyōren
military drill taught in Japanese school as a class until the end of WW2

Is it the stock of a firearm or something?
 

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Thanks! Yes this is the stock of an old rifle I have laying around.
 

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My Japanese wife says it doesn't appear to be Japanese but may be Chinese. She can't pronounce it, especially the top kanji, but she thinks this combination means something like "teaching". Who knows? Maybe it's a label that labels this gun as something for training use. I have a Chinese student who can look at it, but if the language is something old style from that era, I can't promise that she can translate it accurately.
 

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Actually, 敎 is the traditional form(tell your wife 旧字体) of 教 which used to be used until the end of WW2, just like 萬 vs. 万 or 藏 vs. 蔵 in this thread as you might remember.
敎 - ウィクショナリー日本語版

教練 is Japanese. The rifle would be used in a military training class.
きょうれん【教練】
3 軍事教練のこと。
きょうれん【教練】の意味 - goo国語辞書

ぐんじきょうれん【軍事教練】
大正14年(1925)以降、学校で学生・生徒を対象に行われた、陸軍将校による軍事に関する訓練。昭和20年(1945)廃止。学校教練。教練。
ぐんじきょうれん【軍事教練】の意味 - goo国語辞書
 

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Actually, 敎 is the traditional form(tell your wife 旧字体) of 教 which used to be used until the end of WW2, just like 萬 vs. 万 or 藏 vs. 蔵 in this thread as you might remember.
敎 - ウィクショナリー日本語版

教練 is Japanese. The rifle would be used in a military training class.

きょうれん【教練】の意味 - goo国語辞書


ぐんじきょうれん【軍事教練】の意味 - goo国語辞書
Thanks for this. It reveals a pretty interesting history for this old rifle.
 

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Thanks, Toritoribe. I told her, and she said what she always does about this sort of thing, namely that she is too young to know that older form of the language.
 

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Thanks, Toritoribe. I told her, and she said what she always does about this sort of thing, namely that she is too young to know that older form of the language.
Fishing for compliments, maybe?
 

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I told her, and she said what she always does about this sort of thing, namely that she is too young to know that older form of the language.
I'm in my 40's, by the way.;)
 

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When I mock one of my Japanese friends for not knowing very basic elements of Japanese history, he says, "I shouldn't be expected to know that. It happened before I was born."
 

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I'm in my 40's, by the way.
So's my wife. I guess she just doesn't have that much exposure or interest in the older language. (That's for Toritoribe and Mike. :) )
 
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