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Out of say, Japan and Korea S.'s culture and American-European culture nibble the Chinese market of reason, This the true, since upper junior middle schools begin to use Japan's the walkmans of Panasonic, The ones that combined unwittingly at that time had anything, and to be fair, the water of electric apparatus of Japan was accurate and real higher than China, Take a broad view of and see less than this generation of 20 years old, China we, the domestic walkman in ones that used more or less are, The cell-phone ? Sony has one generation of middle age less than 45 years old even have many families who used, Panasonic, etc., Automobile too foreign goods, and adults with turning on upper Hondas, run quickly, insult. A caricature that the middle school student looked at belongs to Japan. What is the caricature is? It is pornographic, campus violence, reactionary gang, etc. Discuss quality, the too much difference between the rich and the poor of 1,400 million Chinese people. Education degree difference is too big. It is not enough for that the government manage the degree, national official's embezzlement and bribe-taking again. These have led to the fact directly that compatriot's quality is on the low side. Chinese characters , I think that the original complex form of a simplified Chinese characters is the crystallization of 5,000 culture in China, Simplified Chinese character for being convenient, and Chinese-traditional our the representatives of the Chinese nation, Should not give up . Often anyone calls and resist day goods. However, we perfect and have how much compatriot like and finish giving up Japan goods one by the science and technologies of the country? But" resisting the goods of the day" of the speech is only a sentence of empty verbiage with the present situation.

Say with a compatriot's angle , what I wanted to refer to first is Zhao Wei. I disdain her, Because she wears the Japanese army flag on impressive China's earth. The friend that goes to Japan to travel knows , the Japanese is very courteous. They have 90 degrees too to bow, but have sincerity somewhat inside? Everybody thinks about each see and pacify how many ideas whether Chinese supernatural the Japanese of societies country every day.
Chinese do not like the Japanese. We are a multi-national aggregate, Chinese's greatest potentiality is not conquering but dissolve, Made a general survey of the history, how many ethnic minorities once held sway over Central Plains, the final result, at last, Without exception nationality heavy to merge, year civilization enough ability to dominate the world to give we this's 5000 more than China, Every different race that can rule us temporarily , we will eat it up soon, will change them into our blood and meat .

At this I want and remind everybody whether want and stick out one's chest, Please not occasion pay attention to oneself at the same time to the images of China, Gentle and cultivated, respect the aged and cherish the young, traditional virtue of our Chinese nation by treating people's this sincerely, We should not forget , to those corrupt officials everybody does the best to pull them , And then outside is studded with while fitting first, we only improve compatriot's quality, it could be in foreign country's goods of some luxurious alpine yarrow that the gap between rich and poor narrows , Unhealthy culture wants to be resisted .

Publish some personal suggestions at last: Japan, we do not accept your false apology and dirty money. We know the innumerable crime which you make in China a tooth for a tooth. The crime of the blood is only repaid with the blood.

Complete the manuscript at 6 o'clock before dawn on 10/15/2003
:) :) :) :) :) :)
 
Saber Rattling ?

What made you upset? A movie, book, something you studied in school, a story from an older person? Most people remember the past, but move on to hope the future is better. The energy put into love and kindness is better spent! I think it's a sure thing that hate and revenge won't change the past and won't make today's world better. The energy put into love and kindness is better spent!

Frank
 
Re: Saber Rattling ?

Originally posted by Frank D. White
What made You upset? A movie, book, something you studied in school, a story from an older person? Most people remember the past, but move on to hope the future is better. I think it's a sure think that hate and revenge won't change the past and won't make today's world better. Energy put into love and kindness is better spent!

Frank

I think the 'outsider' may not understand the current overwhelming Anti- Japanese Sentiment among teenagers(in fact , it has been there in China for a long time...). What indeed surprise me is that a2c4e6 finished this post at 6...

:eek:

There are alot of work to do, to bridge the MISUNDERSTANDING between Chinese and Japanese.
-- not widen it in a forum.
 
Re: the original post,

First of all, the paragraph is our friend. Learn to use it please. 8-p

Also... i'm all for stimulating and thought-provoking discussion but when you use statements like:

"Chinese do not like Japanese"

"Every different race that can rule us temporarily , we will eat up it soon, will change them into our blood and meat ."

"Japan, we do not accept your false apology and dirty money"

"the crime of the blood is only repaid with the blood."

Hmm... sure sounds like you've got some issues.... Anyways, I have no intention of closing this thread or deleting it as the subject matter IS worthy of discussion (China/Japan relations) but please refrain from making such inflammatory comments in the future. Thanks for your understanding.
 
But, I think this is kinda a political and historical combine issue between China and Japan. As I know, some Japanese education still called Chinses are "low-class" and "pathetic", remember, this education is in high school. Of course, I mean just "some", not "all". Many Japanese are still friendly towards the relationship with Chinese. But when go to the political side, many side effect have to think about. That's why Japanese Government never said sorry to the fact they've done in WW2. Just like, George Bush never say sorry to Iraq, and still thought he did a right thing.
 
Re: a2c4e6
hate to say it, but I can't understand the meaning of your paragraph, because it's hard for me to read it pretty well, which I feel improper grammatically.
But making a reply as for the parts I can understand, (Vicki) Zhao Wei is anything but wrong and fault, because she was just only fashion model in that magazine and could not have the commission to select clothes. If you look down on her, I think it's like a witch-hunt.
I don't dislike Chinese, and probably almost all Japanese is the same, but I don't like China Government(I mean, China Communist Party).

Re: Kay
I've never heard of Chinese's being called "low-class" and "pathetic" in Japanese education. Rather I've been taught that China has 5000 years of history and is a great land, and probably almost Japan has been the same.
Well, Japan Government has made an apology to China, in actuality though no such a need. You may think what the reason is.
WW2, accurately China Incident occurred at Lu Gou Bridge in 1937 for firing by China Communist Army toward both Japna Army and China Kuomintang Army. The Japan Army and China Kuomintang Army could delude themselves to conflict with each other.
As Chima Communist Army expected, Japan was forced to contend with China Kuomintang Army, though unwished. In the meantime, China Incident became expanse to Japan-China War. Therefore Japan has did not need to apologize to China Communist Party.
But even so, if you still think that Japan needs to do so, I want to know whether the British Government or Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth 窶。U have said sorry to Aborigine or India, the other countries.
 
"Anti- Japanese Sentiment among teenagers"
it seems like the Chinese communist goverment (which i hate a lot) has achieved its objectives, that is, to create anti foreigner sentiments. It is no good for the com party that its people starts to like the free-world countries and their culture, cause they will start to "like" them and the communists will sure be down. The only way those communists can stay in power is with millions of xenophobic people with hate and grief in their hearts. that is why there is no freedom of speech in china...Pop culture is their number one enemy.:sorry:
 
Hosting an international sports tournament, filled with hatred

Japan to Protest about Bus Scare
Zico Hits Out at Chinese Fans for Booing Anthem

What could be happening in the Olympic games in 2008 then?
 
''The Chinese fans have their reasons for booing that I do not want to go into. However, if there is a national anthem being played, any fan anywhere in the world should respect that,'' the Brazilian said.
This is a good quote of the Brazilian coach Zico.
 
a2c4e6 said:
Out of saying , Japan and Korea S.'s culture and American-European culture nibble the Chinese market of reason, This the true, since upper junior middle schools begin use Japan's the walkmans of Panasonic, The ones that combined unwittingly at that time had anything, and to be fair, water of electric apparatus of Japan was accurate and real higher than China, Take a broad view of and see less than this generation of 20 years old, China we, the domestic walkman in ones that used more or less are, The cell-phone ? It is Sony that one generation of middle age less than 45 years old even have a lot of family which used, Panasonic,etc., Automobile too foreign goods, and adults with turning on upper Hondas, run quickly, insult. Caricature that the middle school student looked at belongs to Japan, what in the caricature is? It is pornographic, campus violence, reactionary gang,etc.. Discuss quality, the toos much difference between the rich and the poor of 1,400 million people of Chinese, education degree difference are too big, it is not enough for that the government manage the degree, national official's embezzlement and bribe-taking again, These have led to the fact directly that compatriot's quality is on the low side. Chinese characters , I think that the original complex form of a simplified Chinese characters are the crystallization of 5,000 culture in China, Simplified Chinese character for being convenient, and Chinese-traditional our the representatives of Chinese nation, Should not give up . Often anyone call and resist day goods, however, we perfect and have how much compatriot like and finish giving up Japan goods one by the science and technologies of country? But" resisting the goods of day" of the speech is only a sentence of empty verbiage with the present situation.
Say with a compatriot's angle , what I wanted to refer to first is Zhao Wei, I disdain her, Because she wears the Japanese army flag on impressive China's earth. The friend that go to Japan to travel knows , the Japanese is very courteous, They have 90 degrees too to bow, but have sincerity somewhat inside? Everybody think about each see and pacify how many ideas whether Chinese supernatural the Japanese of societies country everyday.
Chinese do not like Japanese , we are a multi-national aggregate, Chinese's greatest potentiality is not conquering but dissolve, Made a general survey of history, how many ethnic minorities once held sway over Central Plains, the final result at last, Without exception nationality heavy to merge, year civilization enough ability to dominate the world to give we this's 5000 more than China, Every different race that can rule us temporarily , we will eat up it soon, will change them into our blood and meat .
At this I want and remind everybody whether want and stick out one's chest, Please not occasion pay attention to oneself at the same time too the images of China, Gentle and cultivated, respect the aged and cherish the young, traditional virtue of our Chinese nation by treating people's this sincerely, We should not forget , to those corrupt officials everybody does the best to pull them , And then outside is studded with while fitting first, we only improve compatriot's quality, it could be in foreign country's goods of some luxurious alpine yarrow that the gap between rich and poor narrows , Unhealthy culture wants to be resisted .
Publish some personal suggestions at last: Japan, we do not accept your false apology and dirty money , We know the innumerable crime which you make in China a tooth for a tooth, the crime of the blood is only repaid with the blood.
Complete the manuscript at 6 o'clock before dawn on 10ツ」ツャ15, 2003
:) :) :) :) :) :)

Wow, this is interesting. I would like to post but :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Followup

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Chinese Fans Burn Japanese Flags after Asian Cup Loss (Kyodo)
 
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in the orient, there are more angry sentiments for the past than in Europe
Italians, French, and others remember what happened 60 years ago, but this does not mean that all the Germans coming to Italy for a vacation will be treated like SS and must be treated like killers...perhaps some of their grandfathers were like that, most of them are dead.
For us, the new german generation is not identified like Gestapo or ss soldiers.
We must look to the future as Frank wrote d, from the past we should learn the history
and the different kind of political, economic motivations that created such human disaster like the IIww...
Many people died in this period everywhere... for local little wars
caresty, terrorism, Iraq, Afghanistan....etc.
About China, there is a strong publicity here against Chinese cheap products...
especially toys and electronics...as they are very cheap but not tested
we had some mobile phone battery exploded...and a lot of Italian big fashion names
products copied and made in China....that are doing a lot of damage to the local industry....our small companies cannot support low Chinese prices as these Italian companies must pay the workers that are men and women that work 8 hours a day
and have a regular salary, not children who work 12 hours a day for a few dollars like in China or here inside an apartment and treated like slaves.
I will not buy any product made in China.
Also, some great jp electronic and Korean gave out some products to be assembled in China to save costs...but creating a problem for occupation in their country.
These smart companies save and get more money, meanwhile 1000s of jp or kr
workers lost their job...
If I buy Sony or Panasonic...I should read made in Japan or in Korea for Samsung or Lg. If not, I would not buy that product of that company, and change company.
Here some Chinese pharmacy was closed as the police found a lot of products made with pieces of rare animal that are in the list of animals in danger as ready
to vanish from our planet in few years.
Also, many Chinese restaurants were closed as identical conditions as local low requirements were not respected.
For a long period, Chinese restaurants were empty.
 
Sorry, but as Frank wrote, the past is the past, and talking about it will not resolve or cancel the bad things.....
I think that also many Chinese killed many other Chinese...yesterday and today...
Like Us, China still has a mortal penalty in Europe, we don't have for many years, and China is now the strongest communist land in this world.
I never believed in communism, perhaps in a democratic socialism
where people are free to choose the party and candidates...without be prisoned.
You were talking about Japan and what they did 60 70 years ago...
but what recently Chinese gov. did to the Buddhist monks in Tibet?
Thousand and thousand of them were killed only because they are religious
, and religions are a danger for communism...
Tibet is not as China as Mongolia.....let them decide if they wish to be an independent state or continue to be with China...with a referendum...
I think your gov,nt never accept this.....and continue to kill monks
We are talking about today, not 1940...
regards
 
ippolito said:
thousend and thousand of them were killed only because they are religious
and religions are a danger for communism...
I think your gov,nt never accept this.....and continue to kill monks
We are talking about today, not 1940...
regards

I don't know how u heard abt that.
But it sounds like scandalous.
Whether it's true or not,
it's not as that simple of a matter as what u expected.
They wouldn't kill monks for fun, if they killed any.
Speak frankly, do u think the government of one-fifth world population is too free of time to care for monks of innocence who live peacefully in those remote parts of China, or if not, the livelihood of the rest of the population is at stake?
What u probably don't know is that foreign force and malignant intentions are involved.




ippolito said:
Tibet is not as China as Mongolia.....let them decide if they wish to be an independent state or continue to be with China...with a referendum...

referendum here is not as fair an approach as elsewhere,
since to safeguard the integrity and sovereignty of a nation involves the whole population, not only the minority.
 
Followup of this post.
The Chinese government presumably needed to sow the seeds of anti-Japanese sentiment to divert people's attention from the ill effects of high economic growth, such as the widening gap between rich and poor, and to maintain state control.
It is said that Jiāng Zテゥmテュn is the one who is responsible for "patriotic education" in China after the 1989 Tiān'ānmテゥn Incident. The motive is clear: they have witnessed the collapse of the Soviet Union, so they have a reason to fear the same to be happening to them too (related thread.)

Thus the "nationalist" approach by Jiāng, an interim ruler until Deng Xiǎoping's true successor Hu Jǐntāo assumes the position, took place in order to deal with frustration among the general public. Atrocity museums built in major cities during the 1990s suggest that the movement was not grass-root but government-led.

Notice that China and Japan had had a friendly relationship before the program was launched.
 
re: **** heno heno moheji

How much history do u know between china and japan? Go back to kindergarten to learn more.
Japan say sorry to china is far more not enough. It is abt war.
 
名無し said:
Japan to Protest about Bus Scare
Chinese fans also hurled missiles at a group of Japan fans during and after the Group D match.
It is possible that their behavior might have nothing to do with Japan or history, but local culture at sports stadiums there.

China Sees "Night of Shame" with Basketball Brawl
Three thousand fans hurled abuse along with drinks, plastic bottles and popcorn at the Puerto Rican team as it made its way to the locker room.
It might be Paris hosting the Olympic games in 2008.
 
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