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どこまで and どこまでも

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Hi guys,
I often here these terms in songs and such. Does anyone know a site that gives a good explanation of these. I know that the meaning might need context . Also what is the grammar?
I often read 今まで which can mean " until now" or どこから "from where" etc which is pretty clear but どこまで "until where"?

Anyway look forward to your thoughts.
 
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The basic concept of まで is to indicate the boundary of a range both spatially and temporally. どこまで is asking where the boundary is, whereas どこまでも expresses "wherever the boundary is(= even if the boundary is at anywhere)" since も means "even" here.
 

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Thanks Toritoribesan.
I know their very open to interpretation in engliish but..

In this part of a song、it sounds like the person is saying goodbye to a friend etc.. but will hold on to their voice as he walks, he then is asking himself a question "I wonder how far by myself I can reach or get to... etc" as どこまで is like whats the limit or boundary?

さよなら、君の声を抱いて歩いて行く
僕のままでどこまで届くだろう
 

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Right. "I wonder how far I can reach" is exactly what どこまで届くだろう expresses. 僕のままで means more likely "as I am (now)", i.e., "without changing", though.
どこまで届くだろう changes the meaning to "I will be able to reach anywhere/everywhere (even if how far the place is)".
 
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