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でも / うちに / aからbにかけて / ~がち

eeky

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Hello,

1. 彼からの思いがけないプレゼントが届いたよ。少々は一宿一飯の恩義でも感じてくれ たのかな。

Translation given: "We got an unexpected present from him. I guess he felt a little obligated after what we did for him."

Does でも here mean "or something"?


2. In a section about use of うちに following a negative verb there are a bunch of example sentences like:

冷めないうちにどうぞ召し上がってください。
映画が全部終わらないうちに、お客が帰り始めた。
etc.

I understand the example sentences OK. Then there is a note:

注) 「~てから、それをする」のが普通なのに「~す る前にそれをする」という気持ちが入る場合がある。

To me it looks like this means "Although it usually refers to doing one thing after another, there are cases when it has the sense of doing one thing before another."

I think I have this all wrong. How can うちに following a negative verb refer to doing one thing after another?


3. This is a note on the usage of AからBにかけて:

注) 「~から~まで」と違って、期間ははっきり示さ ない。そして<連続>ではない場合もある。

I understand the first sentence to mean "In contrast to 「~から~まで」, the time interval is not so clearly indicated."

The second sentence seems to be saying something about there also being situations (presumably situations in which ~から~まで is used) when there is no "continuity" or "succession", but I am hazy about what this actually means, and about why 連続 is in angle brackets. I suppose it couldn't be referring to the て form of verbs, could it?


4. This is a note preceding some examples of the use of <名詞>がち:

(※そのような状態が多い ※用例は少ない : 慣用 句)

I understand the first part to be saying that ~がち means that this type of condition/situation is common/widespread.

The next part looks to me as if it means "not many examples : idiomatic usage", but I don't understand the connection between the two things. There aren't in any case a notably small number of examples in this section (there are 3 examples, but plenty of other sections only have 2, 3 or 4, say, so why would they mention this?) I feel it must be referring to something other than the number of examples given in the book, but I've no idea what.
 

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Yes.

2)
The whole clause " 「~てから、それをする」のが普通なのに「~する前に それをする」" modifies 気持ち.

There are cases when it has the sense that "Although the order 'doing one thing after another' is common, 'doing one thing before another' is done/happens".

映画が全部終わらないうちに、お客が帰り始めた。
It's common that movie audience leave the theater after the movie finished, nevertheless they started to leave the theater before the movie finished.

3)
そして<連続>ではない場合もある is an explanation about AからBにかけて.

The brackets would be uesd just to emphasize the meaning.

4)
用例は少ない : 慣用句 would mean that nouns that are used in the expression <名詞>がち is not so many, and most of them are set phrases.
用例 doesn't mean the examples given in the textbook in this case.
 

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Thanks Toritoribe!
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The whole clause " 「~てから、それをする」のが普通なのに「~する前に それをする」" modifies 気持ち.
There are cases when it has the sense that "Although the order 'doing one thing after another' is common, 'doing one thing before another' is done/happens".
Is my interpretation grammatically possible (even though it doesn't make sense in context), or is it not possible at all?
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そして<連続>ではない場合もある is an explanation about AからBにかけて.
Could you explain what it is saying? Especially, I do not understand 連続. I can look this up in the dictionary, but I still don't understand what it refers to in this context.
 

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Is my interpretation grammatically possible (even though it doesn't make sense in context), or is it not possible at all?
Yes, it's possible. I would put a comma after なのに for the case.

Could you explain what it is saying? Especially, I do not understand 連続. I can look this up in the dictionary, but I still don't understand what it refers to in this context.
そして連続ではない場合もある = そしてその行為/行動が連続して(行われて)いない場合もある

For instance, 昨日は夕方から朝まで勉強した means "Yesterday, I continued studying from the evening to the morning", whereas 夕方から朝にかけて勉強した can mean "I studied and sometimes took a rest".
 
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